Re:Cops still take more stuff from people than burglars do
by elcritch on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @08:17PM
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> one that the 4th amendment doesn't apply because you haven't proved its yours. the text says "The right of the people to be secure in their" so it applies after you prove it is something you have the right to be secure of to begin with!
Wow, that's almost literally the logic of a playground bully: "well you can't prove it's yours therefore it's mine".
Re:Cops still take more stuff from people than burglars do
by yieldcrv on Thursday August 03, 2023 @03:11PM
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yeah that’s the point of the bill of rights, intended to restrict the government because there is low trust for what it will do, and lo and behold, the people compromising it keep trying to wiggle around and make it do anything
one that the 4th amendment doesn't apply because you haven't proved its yours. the text says "The right of the people to be secure in their" so it applies after you prove it is something you have the right to be secure of to begin with! and if there is something illegal you incriminate yourself in the process and it switches to a criminal charge against you and the associated criminal asset forfeiture.
but our new supreme court will re-examine it more decisively, lets wait till next year and see what happens!