Apple stole $100s from me, Customer Service says there's nothing they can do

Re:Apple stole $100s from me, Customer Service says there's ... by derefr on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @03:46PM (#36976208)

I don't think there exist any Mail Submission Agents well-connected to the graph of what you would think of as "email on the Internet", that allow you to send FROM an arbitrary address without SMTP AUTHing yourself as an account that maps to someone with privileges to send from that address.

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Re:Apple stole $100s from me, Customer Service says there's ... by jrockway on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @04:48PM (#36977181)

You connect to the recipient's server. It's nice that iCloud Mail automates this all for you (and is allowlisted), but you don't need an email provider to send email.

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Re:Apple stole $100s from me, Customer Service says there's ... by hiatus on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @05:02PM (#36977388)

Let me know when you can telnet into gmail to send mail as an unauthenticated user to another gmail user. Let alone DMARC, SPF and other modern protections. The last time I could do what you describe was more than a decade ago.

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Re:Apple stole $100s from me, Customer Service says there's ... by hiatus on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @05:04PM (#36977425)

This used to be a thing, with open mail servers making it trivial to send emails to your friends masquerading as whitehouse.gov for instance.

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