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Re:Could the world go PFAS-free? Proposal to ban ‘forever ch... by RajT88 on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @01:22PM (#36959173)
PFAS is one of the most common causes of fish advisories by me as well.

The story changes a little when you get to Lake Michigan, which is more heavy metals, fecal coliform, etc. The heavy metals coming from the steel refineries who periodically have oopsies and dump a few tons of waste into the lake.

Re:Could the world go PFAS-free? Proposal to ban ‘forever ch... by zucked on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @01:32PM (#36959348)
Last I looked, the entire Green Bay side of Lake Michigan (from Green Bay up to Escanaba/Garden area) was under a PFAS advisory, as was the south western 1/3 of Superior (from Duluth to the Keeweenaw).

The stuff is everywhere. At least the raw sewage overflows from Milwaukee/Chicago mostly dilute and turn less toxic in the matter of months versus generations as is the case with PFAS.

Re:Could the world go PFAS-free? Proposal to ban ‘forever ch... by selectodude on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @03:57PM (#36961772)
Chicago almost never dumps sewage into the lake anymore. Haven’t yet this year even with all the major storms.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_and_Reservoir_Plan

Re:Could the world go PFAS-free? Proposal to ban ‘forever ch... by trillic on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @04:22PM (#36962189)
Unfortunately that's not true. While not entirely raw sewage, Chicago opened the locks at Navy Pier in July of this year...not all the water in the city can flow to those reservoirs unfortunately, there was just so much rain around 4th of July this year.

Swimming advisories were only in effect for a few hours after the lock was open for nearly 8. Things are getting better but we still have work to do.

Re:Could the world go PFAS-free? Proposal to ban ‘forever ch... by blackbeans on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @02:04PM (#36959864)
Here in The Netherlands, a large DuPont/Chemours factory has been dumping waste products for over 30 years.

The maximum safe concentration of PFAS/PFOA has been reduced in the past years, due to better understanding of health concerns.

As a result and due to more public attention, water surfaces are now seen as harmful up to 10 miles away from the factory. The factory is located right between a medium sized city and a national park. Within a radius of a mile around the factory, people are advised not to grow vegetables.

I think many countries have similar stories and clean up costs are going to be huge.

Re:Could the world go PFAS-free? Proposal to ban ‘forever ch... by HankB99 on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @12:09AM (#36966845)
> The heavy metals coming from the steel refineries ...

Steel mills or petroleum refineries. We have both.

I thought that mercury in the environment came mostly from coal fired power plants. The mills have their share of pollution issues but I think that's more air pollution. Well... There was the issue with killing a bunch of fish a couple years ago. IIRC that was cyanide.