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Re:Meta Forced to Reveal Anonymous Facebook User's Identity by ClumsyPilot on Monday July 31, 2023 @04:24PM (#36948266)
> It's a classic fear vs freedom dichotomy

Thats a false dichotomy. Many kinds of freedom actually result in less freedom. A society where you are free to sell youself into slavery is less free. A society where 10 year olds are free to work in the coal mines is less free. A society where you are free to ignore legitinate court orders is less free because people will turn to vigilante justice instead.

Re:Meta Forced to Reveal Anonymous Facebook User's Identity by jiveturkey on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @12:21AM (#36952255)
all you say is true but that isn’t a false dichotomy defense. it’s “just” a refutation of his position. to contest a false dichotomy you need to explain that there is a third choice.

i find the fear vs freedom dichotomy to be a legitimate set of choices. you didn’t argue against fear, you argued against individual freedom vs societal freedom. which is not what the gp was going on about.

Re:Meta Forced to Reveal Anonymous Facebook User's Identity by subroutine on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @07:21PM (#36964650)
IMO the tradeoff is freedoms vs. protections. People can agree to exchange certain freedoms for protections, and codify this exchange into law.

For example many countries have mandated seatbelt laws. In this case the freedom to not wear a seatbelt is exchanged for health and safety. Someone could claim this is done out of fear, and that's not completely untrue. And as you allude, fear can be totally rational and backed by data, thus fear vs. freedom is not an unreasonable exchange.