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Re:Researchers reached the bottom of ice sheet at -2670M aft... by renegade-otter on Monday July 31, 2023 @03:37PM (#36947684)
Maybe humans become more developed because it got colder? Even on a country and global scale, the south is usually "behind" the north. It's hot, no one wants to do anything.

The American south (Arizona, Florida) were tiny and unimportant until air conditioning entered the chat. Phoenix was at 100 thousand people in the fifties.

The cold makes us think, the cold make us survive, keeps us on the edge - where we need to be. Respek the cold!

Re:Researchers reached the bottom of ice sheet at -2670M aft... by lukev on Monday July 31, 2023 @04:04PM (#36948027)
This is pretty ahistorical. Most of the world's great civilizations have been from warmer climates. Northern Europe is an exception, not the norm.
Re:Researchers reached the bottom of ice sheet at -2670M aft... by pclmulqdq on Monday July 31, 2023 @04:16PM (#36948165)
All of the world's "great" civilizations come from places with strong seasonality. The ones that didn't have winters had flooding seasons and dry seasons. Some of them had both. It also doesn't need to be bitterly cold for winter to have an effect on crops.

Sumeria and Egypt both had seasonal flooding. Italy and Greece have winters that are cold enough to disrupt agriculture. The Aztecs and Mayans had seasonal floods. The ancient Chinese empires had both. Japan has winters. The list goes on.

Re:Researchers reached the bottom of ice sheet at -2670M aft... by pavlov on Monday July 31, 2023 @04:10PM (#36948098)
On the other hand there’s something to be said for a comfortable climate that leaves people with time to think when the everyday isn’t a constant complex struggle.

The Inuits of Greenland and Sami people of Lapland didn’t have Aristotle or Confucius.

Re:Researchers reached the bottom of ice sheet at -2670M aft... by detourdog on Monday July 31, 2023 @05:16PM (#36948958)
That is only due to writing. I always felt that the high latitude civilizations led to technological development due to the high risk and high solitude.
Re:Researchers reached the bottom of ice sheet at -2670M aft... by midoridensha on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @04:32AM (#36953744)
Maybe there's a "sweet spot". Too warm and not enough seasonality leads cultures to not be that productive, but too cold and daily life is just too much of a struggle to invent calculus. Greenland and Lapland are probably too far north to have decent agriculture, and never had large enough populations to develop much civilization. Cultures that had people like Aristotle or Confucius had very large populations for the time.
Re:Researchers reached the bottom of ice sheet at -2670M aft... by Cthulhu_ on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @04:35AM (#36953759)
That we know of; did they have a system of writing?

I find it hard to believe they wouldn't philosophise at all. Confucius got famous (like sun tzu et al) because his ideas were written down, published and spread.

Re:Researchers reached the bottom of ice sheet at -2670M aft... by detourdog on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @07:24AM (#36969396)
The number of different words they have for snow and ice demonstrates a cultural understand of distinct attributes of objects. I think this would be the first step of consciousness understand one thing as distinct and separate from another.