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Re:NASA mistakenly severs communication to Voyager 2 by bumby on Monday July 31, 2023 @11:23AM (#36943997)
Ignoring the “pen dropping” strawman, how far does that trust go within the government?

Do you want the military to “work efficiently” if that means little to no oversight? How about Congress?

Oversight and accountability to the citizenry is a foundational principle in a functioning democracy.

Re:NASA mistakenly severs communication to Voyager 2 by josefx on Monday July 31, 2023 @11:49AM (#36944447)
> Ignoring the “pen dropping” strawman

Saying that and then countering with your own.

Yeah, the pen dropping is a bit over the top, but as of now the claim is that this situation is planed for and will resolve itself. A report now wont tell us anything of significance. It will get interesting if the realignment fails.

> Oversight and accountability to the citizenry is a foundational principle in a functioning democracy.

I don't see micromanagement in that list.

Re:NASA mistakenly severs communication to Voyager 2 by bumby on Monday July 31, 2023 @01:25PM (#36945950)
>I don't see micromanagement in that list.

Is micromanaging that what you're claiming as a strawman in my position? I'm not claiming you are saying the military doesn't need oversight, I'm probing with a concrete example where you draw the line on what constitutes reasonable accountability. Note mine were framed as questions for clarification. That's not a strawman.

Your micromanaging claim is however another strawman statement. I guess I could use clarification on your point. "Micromanaging" would be a direct democratic vote on most or all issues, IMO. That's not what's being asked for here here. What seems to be asked for is transparency. Access to information is not the same as having authority to make all decisions. But it is paramount in a government when people elect representatives who make decisions (or appoint those who do).

>A report now wont tell us anything of significance.

What makes you so confident? A report can tell us if processes were followed appropriately and, if not, if anyone was held accountable for not following them. I'd say that is pretty significant if you care about governmental fraud, waste, and abuse.