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Re:Illegal lab containing bioengineered mice infected with H... by Paul-Craft on Sunday July 30, 2023 @07:08PM (#36936955)
Cool your jets there, Maverick. It's not even clear from the article what was illegal about the lab, much less that China was operating it. You can't just say "illegal lab," "COVID-19 virus," and some random Chinese name and jump to those conclusions.
Re:Illegal lab containing bioengineered mice infected with H... by yumraj on Sunday July 30, 2023 @07:18PM (#36937033)
Occam’s Razor: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor

Also: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officials-believe-fresn...

An investigation found the tenant was Prestige BioTech, a company registered in Nevada and unlicensed for business in California. City officials spoke with Xiuquin Yao, who was identified as the company president, through emails included in the court documents.

Yao told officials that Prestige BioTech moved assets belonging to a defunct company, Universal Meditech Inc., to the Reedley warehouse from Fresno after UMI went under. Prestige Biotech was a creditor to UMI and identified as its successor, according to court documents.

Officials were unable to get any California-based address for either company except for the previous Fresno location from which UMI had been evicted.

"The other addresses provided for identified authorized agents were either empty offices or addresses in China that could not be verified," court documents said.

Re:Illegal lab containing bioengineered mice infected with H... by Paul-Craft on Sunday July 30, 2023 @07:39PM (#36937192)
Addresses in China that cannot be verified literally mean nothing. Similarly, everything else you have there adds up to a giant pile of nothing, Mr. Occam.
Re:Illegal lab containing bioengineered mice infected with H... by rhaway84773 on Sunday July 30, 2023 @07:52PM (#36937292)
If Occam’s razor leads to a conspiracy theory then Occam’s Razor has lost all meaning.

Which unfortunately has happened at least on the internet. It’s literally become the new literally :-)

Re:Illegal lab containing bioengineered mice infected with H... by bratgpttamer on Monday July 31, 2023 @01:54PM (#36946354)
Holding Occam's Razor constant, perhaps the meaning of "conspiracy theory" has been expanded.

Not everything has a causal chain that's 100.0% provable with publicly-available evidence. See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plausible_deniability

Re:Illegal lab containing bioengineered mice infected with H... by whatwhaaaaat on Sunday July 30, 2023 @11:01PM (#36938369)
These are not cheap mice. Someone paid for the mice and it wasn’t a scientist.
Re:Illegal lab containing bioengineered mice infected with H... by AnimalMuppet on Monday July 31, 2023 @12:45PM (#36945329)
Addresses for registered agents that turn out to be empty offices? That is not nothing. It's something shady. It's hard to tell, just from that, what specifically it is, but it's not nothing.
Re:Illegal lab containing bioengineered mice infected with H... by Paul-Craft on Monday July 31, 2023 @08:20PM (#36950729)
Oh, sure, it's definitely something with respect to the idea that things aren't exactly above board here, but it's a pile of nothing with respect to the idea that the Chinese government has anything to do with the lab. It could honestly be anything from Mafia to terrorism to just some shady business dealings. Evidence doesn't really point in any particular direction just yet.
Re:Illegal lab containing bioengineered mice infected with H... by georgeplusplus on Monday July 31, 2023 @08:06AM (#36941407)
It's pretty compelling at this point that a chinese lab had a significant undertaking in the development and spread of covid and if you're looking for a 100% undeniable explanation it doesn't exist because that opportunity to investigate is long gone and the Chinese gov forbade anyone from doing a meaningful investigation. Also complicating the truth coming out is that the USA likely played a part through NIH funding the Wuhan lab.

Why anyone acts like it's a conspiracy at this point is pretty funny. This is certainly the time to be skeptical.