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Re:Fighting for the Open Web [image] by Sparkyte on Sunday July 30, 2023 @03:40PM (#36935112)
Self regulation only works in a top down solution that can be held accountable.

You can't hold anyone accountable with the Internet of Things and regulations that establish accountability allow self regulation.

Re:Fighting for the Open Web [image] by flagrant_taco on Sunday July 30, 2023 @06:27PM (#36936642)
Not sure that I follow, but the open web is a bottom up approach rather than to down. Top down would be a controlled system with regulations and punishment, that isn't open at all.

Where does the internet of things fit in here?

Re:Fighting for the Open Web [image] by Sparkyte on Monday July 31, 2023 @04:06AM (#36939908)
Well the Open Web is one thing in the Internet of Things. Imagine what changes if we move closer to a closed web environment how that changes other things in the umbrella term. Open Web is desirable but the clock is ticking to a closed web.
Re:Fighting for the Open Web [image] by flagrant_taco on Monday July 31, 2023 @10:50PM (#36951751)
Ah OK I follow you now. Unfortunately I think that clock on the open web has already ended, we've effectively had a closed web for at least a decade.

Google sure seems to want to hammer in that final nail, but it's been a long road to get here.

Honestly I can't help but think we'd be better of revisiting early decisions made in Http itself, especially cookies though long-lived connections are also risky. The gemini protocol is really interesting in that area, but I can't help think they rolled it back to far with odd decisions like not requiring cert verification, utf-8 encoding URLs, and only supporting GET requests.