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Re:Comma.ai Launches Comma 3X by atemerev on Sunday July 30, 2023 @02:27AM (#36928438)
You are already responsible for whatever your car is doing, regardless of how it is driven. What additional regulation we need?
Re:Comma.ai Launches Comma 3X by fyolnish on Sunday July 30, 2023 @03:10AM (#36928641)
Regulation making you responsible for reckless behavior before you cause an accident.
Re:Comma.ai Launches Comma 3X by happytiger on Sunday July 30, 2023 @04:51AM (#36929233)
We have that. Drivers are responsible for the outcomes of their driving with licenses, insurance, a legal framework for operating vehicles, and even uniform enforcement.

What else would you add?

Adding a technical stack will lead to court cases but our current system can accomodate — we already have tons of driving modifying systems in cars and nobody blinks an eye.

The only reason this is even controversial is that it’s third party and not provided by the manufacturer.

I would suggest that we are good! The current regulatory compliance and enforcement system can accommodate this change.

Re:Comma.ai Launches Comma 3X by incongruity on Sunday July 30, 2023 @05:03AM (#36929297)
The biggest question I see is insurance coverage. I could imagine insurers moving to not cover accidents during the use of aftermarket systems like this in the same way they won’t cover incidents during track use and the like.
Re:Comma.ai Launches Comma 3X by yardstick on Sunday July 30, 2023 @06:06AM (#36929611)
Why bother with drink driving rules if we already have laws against reckless driving?

Is it not fundamentally the same? If not why not?

Re:Comma.ai Launches Comma 3X by threeseed on Sunday July 30, 2023 @03:23AM (#36928712)
I described some of the regulation we need.

People buying these devices are simply ill-informed about the risks that they pose to other drivers and pedestrians because companies like Comma deliberately withhold the information.

And given innocent lives are at stake the onus should be on being cautious about technologies like these until they are proven.

Re:Comma.ai Launches Comma 3X by razemio on Sunday July 30, 2023 @03:43AM (#36928822)
You are right, they are not informing you during the buy process on their website but there is a tutorial you have to follow interactively, which makes a 100% sure you understand the risks and limitations. It is not like Tesla at all.
Re:Comma.ai Launches Comma 3X by chrisjj on Sunday July 30, 2023 @06:31AM (#36929752)
If responsibility substituted for regulation, there'd be no car regulation at all, would there?