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Re:Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on unauthorized iPad sc... by TillE on Saturday July 29, 2023 @09:41PM (#36926861)
If you make Apple devices totally worthless to thieves, you discourage theft. Make them bricks which can't even be harvested for parts.

That's the goal apparently, and it makes sense.

Re:Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on unauthorized iPad sc... by can16358p on Saturday July 29, 2023 @10:18PM (#36927129)
This.

As a user I'm okay with using only authorized components if it makes theft virtually impractical as there wouldn't be much to use even if the device is stolen.

It will give me more peace of mind as no one will have the incentive to steal an iPad anymore.

Re:Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on unauthorized iPad sc... by userbinator on Saturday July 29, 2023 @11:38PM (#36927585)
I'm not. It's only creating more e-waste, and thieves will find a way around it sooner or later anyway.
Re:Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on unauthorized iPad sc... by can16358p on Sunday July 30, 2023 @02:44AM (#36928523)
Well there are many other alternatives then.

It's good to have at least one company to go this way for people who want to be (relatively) safe from theft.

Re:Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on unauthorized iPad sc... by kaba0 on Sunday July 30, 2023 @03:14AM (#36928671)
Does it? Apple products have an absolutely blooming 2nd, 3rd hand markets, they easily serve 4-6 years I might even say on average.
Re:Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on unauthorized iPad sc... by Timon3 on Sunday July 30, 2023 @03:56AM (#36928891)
Yes, it does, and there is no way it doesn't. If you want to argue otherwise, you'll have to logically explain how not being able to replace parts of a device leads to longer lifetimes. Because we're not talking about selling your iPad that fully works, we're talking about selling one with a broken display.
Re:Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on unauthorized iPad sc... by Retric on Sunday July 30, 2023 @11:06AM (#36931895)
Your argument fails because you can replace parts of the device.

The goal is to make stolen components useless, not prevent repair.

Re:Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on unauthorized iPad sc... by Timon3 on Sunday July 30, 2023 @11:27AM (#36932201)
You can let the parts be replaced by authorized repair shops. You can't do it yourself, you have to pay a hefty markup. This makes the replacement uneconomic for many older devices, thus creating e-waste.
Re:Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on unauthorized iPad sc... by Retric on Sunday July 30, 2023 @12:36PM (#36932999)
3rd party repair shops don’t charge a heavy markup, which you can see by actually looking up prices. They need to compete with both Apple and people just buying a new device.
Re:Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on unauthorized iPad sc... by hyperhopper on Saturday July 29, 2023 @11:59PM (#36927679)
Does anybody really think that one company removing users freedom at the software level, will make thieves not steal hardware worth $1000+?

This is some silicon valley tech bubble mentality.

Re:Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on unauthorized iPad sc... by can16358p on Sunday July 30, 2023 @02:54AM (#36928574)
It makes sense from Apple's image that want to create: being associated with trust and stability, even if means less freedom at some extent.

If I ("I" as the potential customer) can buy an iPad where I can trust Apple because they are taking many measures to make my iPad non-stealable (by practically removing many incentives to steal) it would create a trustworthy image and I'd feel safer, and Apple would have reached its goal of that image.

Re:Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on unauthorized iPad sc... by tjoff on Sunday July 30, 2023 @05:15AM (#36929343)
It makes sense from Apples perspective yes, I mean, after all third party repairs was seen as a huge threat to revenue.

As a user though, lol.

Re:Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on unauthorized iPad sc... by can16358p on Sunday July 30, 2023 @07:01AM (#36929914)
Well as a user who never broke an iPad screen I'd prefer this way too.

Less reason to steal, especially being in a country where Apple device prices are skyrocketing and theft common, I'd even pay more for this to happen as an insurance.

Re:Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on unauthorized iPad sc... by tjoff on Sunday July 30, 2023 @10:01AM (#36931211)
I sure hope you don't have a bag/case for it and leave it clearly visible so that any passing thieves knows it's an apple-device they should leave be.

That people encourage being stripped of rights is just wild. Can't wait to see where this will take us...

Re:Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on unauthorized iPad sc... by can16358p on Sunday July 30, 2023 @05:11PM (#36936030)
Well I don't have a case and I work a lot outsides.

What if someone runs away with it when I'm at the restroom?

Just because you don't need it doesn't mean that there aren't anyone who needs it.

Re:Apple Pencils don’t draw straight on unauthorized iPad sc... by hyperhopper on Sunday July 30, 2023 @11:20PM (#36938473)
"needs it"

What is "it"?

A completely false sense of security based in technological religion?

No, nobody needs that.