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Re:How critical theory is radicalizing high school debate by evrydayhustling on Saturday July 29, 2023 @09:03PM (#36926592)
My first reaction reading this article was that this is indeed disturbing, but so was the format of debate I was exposed to in (turn of millennia) high school. The format basically embodies an idea that every opinion is equally valid, and what matters is how strong their advocates are.

Model UN, a close cousin, emphasized multipolar perspectives but in a context of research, creativity and cooperation.

I think the ethos of Debate is one of the drivers of today's polarization, long before Kritiks arrived.

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Re:How critical theory is radicalizing high school debate by xyzzy123 on Saturday July 29, 2023 @09:11PM (#36926651)
IMHO the traditions of debate are more analogous to boxing than say, philosophy - a competitive endeavour, emphasising technique and effectiveness rather than a truth-seeking activity per se.

I think this is a legimate point of view despite the underlying hint of nihilism.

Some traditions emphasise restrictions on the kinds of tactics you're allowed to use (e.g. pure demagogy or deliberate use of convincing fallacies are frowned upon) and I can't help but think of these as like queensberry rules vs mma...

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Re:How critical theory is radicalizing high school debate by evrydayhustling on Sunday July 30, 2023 @01:00PM (#36933278)
I like the analogy but I think there is an important difference: the issue settled in a boxing or MMA match starts and ends in the ring, but the issues covered in debate are social policies that depend on external truths and impact participants.

TFA gets into this in its last section about debate's impact on politics. Is it great to train a class of leaders based on competitive technique and effectiveness rather than external reality or support?

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Re:How critical theory is radicalizing high school debate by morelisp on Sunday July 30, 2023 @04:00PM (#36935306)
In reality very few elected leaders participated in policy debate. They mostly end up policy wonks, software developers, or bloggers.
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