News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Red algae proteins grafted into tobacco double plant growth by deelowe on Saturday July 29, 2023 @08:03PM (#36926202)
Good news. People are having less kids and population growth may reverse soon.
Re:Red algae proteins grafted into tobacco double plant growth by doubleg72 on Saturday July 29, 2023 @08:34PM (#36926407)
In developed countries..
Re:Red algae proteins grafted into tobacco double plant growth by contravariant on Saturday July 29, 2023 @08:38PM (#36926431)
All countries. It just takes a while before the effects kick in.
Re:Red algae proteins grafted into tobacco double plant growth by PradeetPatel on Saturday July 29, 2023 @08:57PM (#36926558)
Exactly, we're all in this together. There is only one Earth and the only way to move forward is to work together and help each other out.

International politics does not need to be a zero sum game, a little bit of mutual assistance can go a long way.

Re:Red algae proteins grafted into tobacco double plant growth by soligern on Saturday July 29, 2023 @10:26PM (#36927182)
No, India and China are both below replacement rate. Most of South America is. Rates are evening out in sub Saharan Africa as well.
Re:Red algae proteins grafted into tobacco double plant growth by hn_throwaway_99 on Saturday July 29, 2023 @10:29PM (#36927209)
This is a misconception that should be corrected. Fertility rates are falling everywhere, even in places with the current highest rates like sub-Saharan Africa: https://www.afd.fr/en/actualites/dramatic-drop-fertility-acr...
Re:Red algae proteins grafted into tobacco double plant growth by noduerme on Saturday July 29, 2023 @08:12PM (#36926261)
What are the chances this will result in more food for everyone?
Re:Red algae proteins grafted into tobacco double plant growth by civilitty on Saturday July 29, 2023 @09:32PM (#36926798)
Depends on how many soylent green factories we build in response to climate change.
Re:Red algae proteins grafted into tobacco double plant growth by noduerme on Saturday July 29, 2023 @11:21PM (#36927505)
This goes back to my theory that the people most freaked out about climate change are the ones with kids, who are mad that other less responsible people have more kids, while I'm just chilling here with no kids at all and clearly see that if all those assholes stopped having kids, climate change would be solved within 20 years.
Re:Red algae proteins grafted into tobacco double plant growth by thrownokids on Saturday July 29, 2023 @11:45PM (#36927618)
Married vegetarian with no kids living in a major city with no cars checking in — I completely agree.
Re:Red algae proteins grafted into tobacco double plant growth by isykt on Sunday July 30, 2023 @09:32AM (#36930998)
Go Vegan! It’s easier than you think, especially since you live in a city. No judgements from me if you can’t/choose not to, it does take work. Just a bit of encouragement, and a thank you for making the compassionate and ecologically sound choice.
Re:Red algae proteins grafted into tobacco double plant growth by m4x on Sunday July 30, 2023 @12:57AM (#36927954)
Climate change absolutely won't be solved in twenty years if everybody stops having kids. What's your logic there?
Re:Red algae proteins grafted into tobacco double plant growth by hutzlibu on Sunday July 30, 2023 @05:20AM (#36929369)
"if all those assholes stopped having kids"

So to save humanity, humanity must be destroyed?

Also, who do you think, will take care of you, when you cannot anymore, but there aren't people anymore doing it.

Robots? Well, hopefully they can take care of themself then. Or is this the whole idea? Pass everything on to the machines?

Re:Red algae proteins grafted into tobacco double plant growth by isykt on Sunday July 30, 2023 @09:30AM (#36930984)
Then your money would be worth a ton due to deflation, but unable to purchase anything because the workforce is near non existent…

I’m happily child-free myself, but for natural reasons. I’ll let the breeders keep the Ponzi scheme going.

Re:Red algae proteins grafted into tobacco double plant growth by ramraj07 on Sunday July 30, 2023 @12:01AM (#36927691)
Probably not fast enough. To actually come back to the population we have today would take a really long time.
Re:Red algae proteins grafted into tobacco double plant growth by onlypositive on Sunday July 30, 2023 @12:55AM (#36927942)
Population caps out at 10b and begins to decline again around 2100. That's the current projections.
Re:Red algae proteins grafted into tobacco double plant growth by ramraj07 on Sunday July 30, 2023 @01:04AM (#36927993)
Which means 2 centuries before we get back to 7 or 8.
Re:Red algae proteins grafted into tobacco double plant growth by mumin on Sunday July 30, 2023 @03:09AM (#36928638)
Don't worry, climate change will speed that right up
Re:Red algae proteins grafted into tobacco double plant growth by ramraj07 on Sunday July 30, 2023 @11:12AM (#36931989)
I do worry, because the ones that die will not be the ones who reaped the benefits and remain nonchalant about it today.
Re:Red algae proteins grafted into tobacco double plant growth by Tade0 on Sunday July 30, 2023 @04:44AM (#36929191)
UN projections, which are on the "business as usual" side of things.

Plenty of events, like the pandemic, which put immense downward pressure on fertility.

Also, the African continent is a net food importer. This could be turned around - particularly by Nigeria, which has the natural resources to produce fertiliser, but so far the observed effect has been a surge (+65%) of imports.

With the situation in Ukraine being what it is, I don't think this is sustainable.

Niger is currently experiencing a population explosion, which will force it to implement the same policies as Kenya to prevent a Malthusian catastrophe.

Re:Red algae proteins grafted into tobacco double plant growth by josefx on Sunday July 30, 2023 @05:27AM (#36929409)
Going too fast will cause other issues. Unless we get a decent world war or another covid going the elderly aren't just going to drop dead.
Re:Red algae proteins grafted into tobacco double plant growth by HenryBemis on Sunday July 30, 2023 @06:05AM (#36929605)
I fear that a 'decent world war' nowadays may include nukes, so damage to the environment will be great. As an example, the dam that was destroyed in Ukraine and flooded a 'small area' (considering the planet-scale)(https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/kakhova-dam-ukraine-russia-1.6...).

Which (your post and my thinking of a response) reminded me of the series: Aftermath - Population Zero (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1264068/); I remember watching some series back in the day.. I think it's time to watch this again.

EDIT: I found it on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l11zPNb-MFg

Re:Red algae proteins grafted into tobacco double plant growth by ramraj07 on Monday July 31, 2023 @06:53AM (#36940869)
I'm slowly starting to realise that nukes are very unlikely to be involved simply because the selfish shits who start and run the wars know they personally won't survive if they start the nuke match.