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Re:How fast should you accelerate your kid in math? by turzmo on Saturday July 29, 2023 @05:31PM (#36924879)
The bottom 5% is hopeless. Yeah it would be better if we did that, but people think about education as a means to provide the individual the chance for success in life rather than thinking about the broader impact of individuals on society and the disproportionate effect that the top has.

As far as most people are concerned, a kid that is acing everything is going to be fine in life and they don't worry about anything that could be going wrong there.

Re:How fast should you accelerate your kid in math? by ryandrake on Saturday July 29, 2023 @07:21PM (#36925876)
My parents were both [retired] teachers, and sadly this is the truth. Some bottom N%, I don’t know if it’s 1 or 5 or 10 or whatever, but they are absolutely beyond anyone’s ability to rehab, let alone educate. Often no fault of their own. Broken families, parents don’t care, gangs, lots of reasons. Any effort spent on them is wasted. They are inevitably fucked, and will end up in some kind of institution (prison, mental health) or unemployable, by age 25. It’s a sad reality and not something politicians like to talk about. We pretend that if we just whip the teachers so they teach harder, these people will miraculously grow up to be functional adults. It’s not going to happen.

I remember a guy in my high school whose claim to fame was he dragged some other poor kid into the wood shop and filed his teeth down to nothing with a band saw. Spending 50% of the school budget on these blockheads is not going to rehab them.

Re:How fast should you accelerate your kid in math? by XorNot on Saturday July 29, 2023 @08:16PM (#36926292)
> I remember a guy in my high school whose claim to fame was he dragged some other poor kid into the wood shop and filed his teeth down to nothing with a band saw. Spending 50% of the school budget on these blockheads is not going to rehab them.

What year and what school district did this happen in?

I mean I'm curious because that's violent assault, of the sort that generally makes the local papers.

Re:How fast should you accelerate your kid in math? by xyzzy123 on Saturday July 29, 2023 @08:41PM (#36926463)
I'm struggling to visualise how this would be physically possible.
Re:How fast should you accelerate your kid in math? by giardini on Sunday July 30, 2023 @02:37PM (#36934481)
ryandrake says:

"I remember a guy in my high school whose claim to fame was he dragged some other poor kid into the wood shop and filed his teeth down to nothing with a band saw."

Citation needed!8-))

Sounds like an urban myth (albeit a good one)!

Also, it is unclear that the story demonstrates any relevant point in this discussion: one might say that using a shop band saw on another's teeth is a very clever, although, on the surface extremely unsocial, act."

Re:How fast should you accelerate your kid in math? by ryandrake on Monday July 31, 2023 @11:39AM (#36944287)
Well, I was in Junior High at the time. It could have been exaggerated, but we all saw the ambulance. Both students were never seen around school again. The 80s were wild!