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Re:The U.K. Government Is Close to Eroding Encryption Worldwide by dheera on Friday July 28, 2023 @06:17PM (#36914113)
Even with a totalitarian regime, they cannot stop the rest of the world from using encryption. People can pull their business entities out of the UK and they have no jurisdiction outside their borders.

If I create an E2E messaging app, I don't need to listen to the UK at all. The UK can't tell me what to do any more than China can. China can block my app if they want, but it's on them, not me, to block it. Same goes for the UK. They can set up a firewall too if they want. But I don't need to change my app if I don't set foot in the UK.

Re:The U.K. Government Is Close to Eroding Encryption Worldwide by account-5 on Friday July 28, 2023 @07:15PM (#36914672)
Yeah the UK doesn't have the clout of the US that does go after app creators in other countries all the time extraditing them to the US etc, or attempting to anyway.
Re:The U.K. Government Is Close to Eroding Encryption Worldwide by jokethrowaway on Friday July 28, 2023 @08:21PM (#36915292)
They certainly can, if they wanted to - or they could block your app and exile you with minimum effort.

Telegram is half banned in Russia.

Of course this doesn't apply to the bad guys: they're already breaking the law, using E2E is a no-brainer for them.

The UK government can't ban math out of existence (even if it looks like they're trying very hard, judging from the quality of their education system) so there will always be encryption.

It's the same with guns: congratulations you've outlawed guns and now only criminals can use them.

Re:The U.K. Government Is Close to Eroding Encryption Worldwide by ggm on Friday July 28, 2023 @09:04PM (#36915644)
Your last analogy is very poor because even against rising rates of criminal gun use, the UK and the ROTW apart from the USA continues to have substantially lower levels of gun related deaths and suicide by police, against the USA.

So true: gun use and ownership in the UK rises and is mostly criminals. It's still less of a problem per capita than promiscuous gun ownership in the USA by all measures I understand.

This has nothing to do with the "war on encryption by the state" topic