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Re:Mathematica 7.0 Released Today by delackner on Tuesday November 18, 2008 @11:30PM (#369132)
While I will probably never use mathematica, due to its breathtaking price, one can only wonder how many researchers the world over simply pirate it. I also doubt we will ever see Wolfram willing to set the price at a level that normal human beings can afford.

Perhaps a client-server version that does all its computing back at Wolfram's servers, would give them the confidence to dabble with a sane price point...

Re:Mathematica 7.0 Released Today by gaius on Wednesday November 19, 2008 @07:11AM (#369398)
It's not a matter of "dabbling" or "sanity", it's a matter of making a niche product that takes a lot of very qualified people years of work. The market for individual consumers that would buy Mathematica is tiny. You might as well wonder why SAP don't "dabble" with a "sane" price point for R/3 for home users to balance their chequebooks.
Re:Mathematica 7.0 Released Today by wheels on Wednesday November 19, 2008 @08:29AM (#369438)
I'm not completely convinced. I'd love to use Mathematica for modeling some of the stuff that we're doing, but no way I'm going to drop $4000 on it (the price where I live). $500 and I'd do it immediately.
Re:Mathematica 7.0 Released Today by JulianMorrison on Wednesday November 19, 2008 @06:37PM (#370092)
"Shockingly rich professors of mathematics" - a harshly vertical niche, no wonder the per-unit price is high. But I think they've painted themselves into a bit of an unnecessary corner. Mathematica is a universal workhorse and math has huge applicability. I think they could cut the per-unit price and make it up on volume, selling into commerce and academia. Heck, I'd be inclined to offer "open source user" licenses free for private individuals who agreed to CC license their results and their code libraries.

Who makes more money, Toyota or Rolls Royce?

Re:Mathematica 7.0 Released Today by delackner on Wednesday November 19, 2008 @10:56PM (#370301)
"Who makes more money, Toyota or Rolls Royce?"

I'd leave off the automotive comparison. Porsche is rich enough to contemplate buying Volkswagen.

Re:Mathematica 7.0 Released Today by gaius on Thursday November 20, 2008 @01:15AM (#370391)
I expect, like Oracle, almost all users of Mathematica are on their institution or employer's site licence.

There's plenty of cheap maths software (e.g. MathCad) and free (e.g. Sage, Octave) around.

Re:Mathematica 7.0 Released Today by newt0311 on Tuesday November 18, 2008 @11:55PM (#369150)
researchers work in universities, almost all of which have site-wide licenses. Site-wide licenses for mathematica also start to approach reason. Its doubtful that that many researchers will have to pirate it.
Re:Mathematica 7.0 Released Today by pg on Wednesday November 19, 2008 @11:52AM (#369624)
researchers work in universities

Really? By definition? Was Erdos not a "researcher?"

Re:Mathematica 7.0 Released Today by delackner on Tuesday November 18, 2008 @11:56PM (#369151)
Universities in a lot of countries do not have budgets that can deal with even $1000 a seat.
Re:Mathematica 7.0 Released Today by dzorz on Wednesday November 19, 2008 @06:06AM (#369369)
I can confirm this. We have a site-wide license for Matlab, but not for Mathematica. Educational version of Mathematica 7 would cost me my two monthly salaries - therefore I will pirate it.
Re:Mathematica 7.0 Released Today by listic on Wednesday November 19, 2008 @06:22AM (#369377)
I didn't buy any, but from my point of view, Mathematica is priced just a bit lower than Matlab.

Matlab quotes me $1900 for a single common license: http://www.mathworks.com/store/loginSubmitGuest.do while Mathematica is $1750: http://store.wolfram.com/view/app/mathematica/

How much does site license for Matlab cost you?

Re:Mathematica 7.0 Released Today by PStamatiou on Wednesday November 19, 2008 @09:24AM (#369473)
I got Matlab student version 4 years ago for around $140.
Re:Mathematica 7.0 Released Today by maximilian on Wednesday November 19, 2008 @02:24AM (#369285)
A site license is a lot. My dept can't afford it and use Maple instead.