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Re:Web Dev Without Tools by irrational on Friday July 28, 2023 @11:44AM (#36908586)
> The browser has matured enough that you can build a complex app without any of the above tools

The irony of this sentence is there was a time before these tools existed when we also did complex web development (for at least a good 15-20 years) in the browsers as they existed.

Re:Web Dev Without Tools by marcosdumay on Friday July 28, 2023 @01:44PM (#36910477)
Yes, and it was bad. So people created all those tools to improve the situation.

But now you don't need a lot of what they do anymore.

Re:Web Dev Without Tools by shove on Friday July 28, 2023 @06:09PM (#36914024)
It was bad, and it drove me mad, but honestly I miss it because I’m not sure we’re overall in a better place now
Re:Web Dev Without Tools by solumunus on Saturday July 29, 2023 @01:15AM (#36917169)
Nostalgia is powerful. I’m building way more complex and objectively better things now than I was then. The frustrations involved might not be any lesser, but it’s hard to argue the capabilities and level of productivity aren’t improved.