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Re:Systemd 254 released, deprecating sysvinit scripts by rubiquity on Friday July 28, 2023 @11:08AM (#36907893)
Good riddance! Sysvinit shell scripts are a pain to read and maintain. Developers that perpetuate systemd flamewars have gone from mildly entertaining memes to being a serious red flag and not anyone I’d ever want to work with. systemd and its ecosystem is proven and always getting better.
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Re:Systemd 254 released, deprecating sysvinit scripts by washadjeffmad on Friday July 28, 2023 @11:29AM (#36908332)
Certainly! It can also be difficult to distinguish between being genuinely liked and politely tolerated because of being "good to have around".

I mean init systems, of course.

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Re:Systemd 254 released, deprecating sysvinit scripts by Bombinator on Friday July 28, 2023 @11:12AM (#36907972)
Don't you think it does a bit too much as an init system?
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Re:Systemd 254 released, deprecating sysvinit scripts by rubiquity on Friday July 28, 2023 @11:15AM (#36908041)
It’s not just an init system and you can opt into resolved, networkd, etc. but you knew that already!
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Re:Systemd 254 released, deprecating sysvinit scripts by op00to on Friday July 28, 2023 @11:19AM (#36908128)
No, it does what I want well. It never surprised me.
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Re:Systemd 254 released, deprecating sysvinit scripts by tptacek on Friday July 28, 2023 @11:28AM (#36908306)
No. It’s great, replacing and unifying a whole collection of random tooling you otherwise had to cobble together yourself.
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Re:Systemd 254 released, deprecating sysvinit scripts by tekla on Friday July 28, 2023 @11:21AM (#36908166)
What does it do as an init system that is too much?
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Re:Systemd 254 released, deprecating sysvinit scripts by diffeomorphism on Friday July 28, 2023 @11:52AM (#36908707)
Not really, no. Systemd-init seems fairly focused. systemd the project also makes other stuff, which all neatly fits together.
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Re:Systemd 254 released, deprecating sysvinit scripts by akerl_ on Friday July 28, 2023 @12:06PM (#36908947)
Just being able to treat period tasks the same as I treat long-lived services, and never having to think about crontab vs cron.d vs cron.hourly vs /etc/crontab, has improved my quality of life dramatically.

I also use systemd-timesyncd / networkd / resolved on most of my systems, but in places where I've wanted to not, swapping them out is as easy as swapping any other services (looking at you, rsyslog and syslog-ng).

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Re:Systemd 254 released, deprecating sysvinit scripts by rubiquity on Friday July 28, 2023 @11:14AM (#36908018)
I guess I didn’t get the hint that UNIX is not for me over two decades ago! Do you also dislike launchd and generally being productive?
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Re:Systemd 254 released, deprecating sysvinit scripts by jmclnx on Friday July 28, 2023 @11:26AM (#36908271)
I have no idea what launchd is.
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Re:Systemd 254 released, deprecating sysvinit scripts by sidpatil on Friday July 28, 2023 @11:12AM (#36907988)
Which is fair, since Linux Is Not UniX.
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