Re:Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck ...
by ZephyrBlu on Friday July 28, 2023 @07:05AM
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You think it takes 5+ years to acquire those skills?! Man, I would be driven insane in an environment like that. Such a long time and a relatively low bar.
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Re:Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck ...
by H8crilA on Friday July 28, 2023 @07:10AM
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I think the point is that some people don't acquire it within 5 or even more years. Think of a typical checked-out worker, without any specific ambition in professional life. There's plenty of people like that.
Re:Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck ...
by jacquesm on Friday July 28, 2023 @08:09AM
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Some, possibly even most, never do.
Re:Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck ...
by FemmeAndroid on Friday July 28, 2023 @07:16AM
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Not who you’re asking, but it can take almost no time, or decades. It has nothing to do with years.
Re:Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck ...
by reverend_gonzo on Friday July 28, 2023 @07:14AM
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I know people with 20y that can’t do that.
Re:Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck ...
by pc86 on Friday July 28, 2023 @09:12AM
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I have worked with people who have 8-10 years of experience and are still mid-level in both skill and professionalism, know that they are, and are fine with it. They get their joy from other things in life and are totally fine coming into the office and doing the bare minimum to get by and going years without raises or bonuses because of it. Again, this is a conscious choice these people are making, they're not being taken advantage of or anything.
Re:Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck ...
by jonfw on Friday July 28, 2023 @09:37AM
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I work with a guy now who's a mid-senior level (senior is SDE4, he's a 3) nearing retirement. Happiest guy I know tbh
Re:Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck ...
by indymike on Friday July 28, 2023 @09:41AM
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> Such a long time and a relatively low bar.
I've promoted juniors in months. I've also had people start, stay a few years and leave as a junior. It's all about learning and what work you take on. Also, I see this often when interviewing. 5+ years of experience looking for a junior role. Usually, it's either someone who did not learn and was not promoted, or it is someone from an company that did not let people work on important things because they were junior. So they stayed that way.