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Re:Llama and ChatGPT Are Not Open-Source by Kuinox on Thursday July 27, 2023 @09:26PM (#36902163)
There is a lot of mental gymnastic, to submit an artwork publicly on the internet, allowing everyone to copy your arstyle, make derivative art of it, have other learn from it, but if ever a machine 'learn' from it, it's "stealing". It's not because you don't like a derivative work, that the derivative work is "stealing" your content. Saying it's stealing is wrong, it's lying to get your point accross.

You blame "how tech is going to steal everyone copyrighted works", yet, they were already in the tech world: the internet.

Re:Llama and ChatGPT Are Not Open-Source by raincole on Thursday July 27, 2023 @09:43PM (#36902266)
It's a lot of mental gymnastic to think machine learning = human learning. Especially on HN, where people should understand scale matters a lot in real world.

It's generally consider ok to sell your fanart on comic festivals. But do you think it's okay that Disney starts selling fanart of One Piece without the publisher's permission?

A car and a pair of legs both move you from A point to B point. So why do laws treat automobiles and pedestrians so differently?

Re:Llama and ChatGPT Are Not Open-Source by Kuinox on Friday July 28, 2023 @05:38AM (#36904695)
> It's a lot of mental gymnastic to think machine learning = human learning.

That's why I have put it in quotes. > But do you think it's okay that Disney starts selling fanart of One Piece without the publisher's permission?

It's why it's called "fair use". Fanart isn't the only case of fair use. Parody for example allows it. And AFAIK, no court yet have decided that AI "learning" is not fair use or what the limite are.

Re:Llama and ChatGPT Are Not Open-Source by hmcq6 on Friday July 28, 2023 @02:35AM (#36903670)
> have other learn from it, but if ever a machine 'learn'

Why did you put one of those in quotes and not the other?

Re:Llama and ChatGPT Are Not Open-Source by Kuinox on Friday July 28, 2023 @05:45AM (#36904732)
Because these two are similar, yet not the same.