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Re:Brave is a fork, not a Chromium reskinn by JeremyNT on Thursday July 27, 2023 @02:02PM (#36897717)
> I don't understand a lot of the hate for Brave. If you don't like the crypto integration, the ads, etc you can just disable them. I feel the original intent, to be able to contribute directly back to page authors, was a noble one. It may not have played out as intended, but it wasn't a scam.

The presence of ads and/or crypto is a strong signal that you're working with an untrustworthy entity, whose objectives will not be aligned with your own.

Maybe Brave the browser isn't outright a "scam," but the willingness of the company to dip into scam-enabling technologies like crypto makes the brand toxic, and anything by the company is immediately suspect.

The same is true for Signal, for what it's worth, as it still supports Moxie's pet shitcoin.

It's easy enough to opt out of Brave because Firefox exists, but there's still sadly no better alternative to Signal.

Re:Brave is a fork, not a Chromium reskinn by scrum-treats on Thursday July 27, 2023 @02:23PM (#36898040)
> The presence of ads and/or crypto is a strong signal that you're working with an untrustworthy entity, whose objectives will not be aligned with your own.

Decentralized wealth is crypto. Sure, there are scams, but the point is to pay people for viewing ads (wealth re-distribution in a decentralized fashion). No one else is paying you to view ads; they are just taking your engagement data, your face and eye gaze data, your mouse trajectory data, etc. Brave is the first to try to pay you a portion of its ads revenue in a way that you the end user can flip into whatever currency you want, including USD. I've never been cut a check from Google, Amazon, Facebook, or the like. But I've received BAT, which I can flip into ETH/BTC, and earn more money.

> Maybe Brave the browser isn't outright a "scam," but the willingness of the company to dip into scam-enabling technologies like crypto makes the brand toxic, and anything by the company is immediately suspect.

Do you use any resource owned/operated by Google? Amazon? JPMorgan Chase? Facebook? Bank of America? Wells Fargo? (to name a few) All of these companies "dip into scam-enabling technologies like crypto."

Do more research.

Re:Brave is a fork, not a Chromium reskinn by entrepy123 on Thursday July 27, 2023 @03:32PM (#36898928)
> ...there's still sadly no better alternative to Signal.

Isn't the Matrix protocol quite clearly the better alternative to Signal?

There are several options--host your own (matrix server), use a free public server (matrix.org), or pay someone to host a server instance for you (e.g., element.io). The Element clients are good enough by now for all platforms (web, desktop, mobile). What's not to love?

Re:Brave is a fork, not a Chromium reskinn by JeremyNT on Friday July 28, 2023 @01:39PM (#36910402)
Unlike browsers, which can (for now) still be swapped out solely on individual preference, the network effects are real for messaging platforms. This means that currently Signal is more broadly useful than Matrix clients.

Hopefully this can change some day, and Matrix (or something like it) will become ubiquitous. But it was a slog for Signal to gain even its small market share, despite its better usability and lower barriers to entry.

For lack of a better alternative, we "standardized" on Signal as the de-facto secure messaging system that is outside of the control of ad companies, and it will take time to rectify that.

Re:Brave is a fork, not a Chromium reskinn by Arathorn on Friday July 28, 2023 @07:26PM (#36914774)
on the Matrix side we are slogging away at https://element.io/blog/element-x-experience-the-future-of-e... to provide good (excellent?) UX as well as interoperability via Matrix.
Re:Brave is a fork, not a Chromium reskinn by Karunamon on Thursday July 27, 2023 @03:45PM (#36899104)
>the willingness of the company to dip into scam-enabling technologies like crypto

This is a ridiculous take. Every technology you use that facilitates payments or communication is, objectively speaking, "scam-enabling".