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Re:Brave is a fork, not a Chromium reskinn by lelanthran on Thursday July 27, 2023 @01:50PM (#36897487)
> Trying to take away someone's civil rights is fundamentally different from outlawing a crime.

Nitpick; anything that is outlawed is a crime. This is why I chose a crime as my example.

> Wanting someone to be a literal second-class citizen is, in fact, a negation of the validity of their identity. Revoking same-sex marriage is absolutely an effort to push the LGBTQ+ community back into the shadows; it is transparently the tip of the spear of a movement that seeks to roll back some of the biggest civil rights gains of the last few decades.

I agree, but comparing a supporter of some legislative lobby to genocide is pure hyperbole.

You're trivialising genocide when you claim that someone wanting to stop you doing what you do is the same as ethnic cleansing.

> That is what OP means when they say "don't want me to exist".

There is no wiggle room for interpretation there; "don't want those people to exist" has always meant pure genocide.

It's said for drama and for pure emotional impact, while trivialising real "don't want those people to exist" history.

Re:Brave is a fork, not a Chromium reskinn by tech_ken on Thursday July 27, 2023 @01:55PM (#36897579)
I have no idea why all of you settled on "OP was equating taking their civil rights to genocide" but the reading seems clearly bad. "Trivialising genocide" is quite a take and one which I think is clearly silly. The same movement which would take away same-sex marriage is openly salivating about using legal force to commit violent reprisals against the LGBGTQ communities, and lawyering about the precise wording of a comment is stooge work. Have a good one
Re:Brave is a fork, not a Chromium reskinn by lelanthran on Thursday July 27, 2023 @02:00PM (#36897684)
> I have no idea why all of you settled on "OP was equating taking their civil rights to genocide" but the reading seems clearly bad. "Trivialising genocide" is quite a take and one which I think is clearly silly. The same movement which would take away same-sex marriage is openly salivating about using legal force to commit violent reprisals against the LGBGTQ communities, and lawyering about the precise wording of a comment is stooge work.

From your first response to me you have been unnecessarily rude. "Facile"? "Bad-faith"? "Stooge"?

Just because a large number of people don't believe that preventing same-sex marriage is the same as the holocaust doesn't mean we are acting in bad faith.

FWIW, I get the same response from ideologically pure believers when I nitpick their use of phrases like "stare-rape".

Re:Brave is a fork, not a Chromium reskinn by tech_ken on Thursday July 27, 2023 @02:03PM (#36897727)
I’m simply trying to be as accurate in my descriptions as possible. I apologize that you find it rude, but I don’t want to be misunderstood. Shoehorning the holocaust into this is extremely derailing, and again reads as bad faith strawmanning.
Re:Brave is a fork, not a Chromium reskinn by mrguyorama on Thursday July 27, 2023 @03:51PM (#36899189)
The only one bringing genocide AND THE LITERAL HOLOCAUST into this discussion are you. The parent said "Doesn't want people like me to exist" FFS
Re:Brave is a fork, not a Chromium reskinn by lelanthran on Friday July 28, 2023 @05:32AM (#36904656)
> The only one bringing genocide AND THE LITERAL HOLOCAUST into this discussion are you. The parent said "Doesn't want people like me to exist" FFS

No, he said "Thinks people like me shouldn't exist", which is genocide.

Hitler wanted the Jews to stop existing. Now we have someone complaining that them being prevented from marriage to a partner of their choice is the same thing.

It's not. The original lobbying effort didn't make the argument that homosexual people shouldn't exist. It's an argument purely in the mind of the OP.

Re:Brave is a fork, not a Chromium reskinn by tremon on Friday July 28, 2023 @09:18AM (#36906347)
The same movement which

So, you're using guilt by association now? Are you accusing everyone who disagrees with you of violence?