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Re:EU opens Microsoft antitrust investigation into Teams bun... by mschuster91 on Thursday July 27, 2023 @12:15PM (#36895834)
> And you want to talk about user experience…if you go afk, you stop receiving all new messages…that is until you move your mouse again.

Which... makes sense? Nothing worse than a colleague going for lunch and not setting afk/dnd, so a constant "bleep" notification sound.

> Dark mode can’t be synced to the system on Mac. Native notifications weren’t a thing on Mac until like a year ago.

Valid points, although I did like the separate notifications - I used Focus Mode of macOS to silence everything else but still Teams notifications got through.

> Click anything, change channels, press any button and you’re waiting hundreds of milliseconds if not seconds! The only cure for that is using a souped up M1/2 processor.

Common problem for Electron apps, an issue it shares with Slack, or most modern web apps in general (if I were to guess, I'd blame ReactJS for that trend with all its encapsulation)... both keep zero local state it seems and request the actual content from scratch every time you change the current view or its scope. Damn annoying.

Re:EU opens Microsoft antitrust investigation into Teams bun... by heyoni on Thursday July 27, 2023 @01:25PM (#36897035)
> Which... makes sense? Nothing worse than a colleague going for lunch and not setting afk/dnd, so a constant "bleep" notification sound.

Makes absolutely zero sense. You set yourself away, or the system sets you as away and messages come in silently. In its current state, you get ZERO messages, even if your screen is open to the Teams chat where the messages are coming in. Moving your mouse after any period when you're away makes your computer look like a VCR fast forwarding through a movie. That's stupid. AND it was added within the last 6-9 months. To save bandwidth? Probably to monitor workers.

> Common problem for Electron apps, an issue it shares with Slack, or most modern web apps in general (if I were to guess, I'd blame ReactJS for that trend with all its encapsulation)... both keep zero local state it seems and request the actual content from scratch every time you change the current view or its scope. Damn annoying.

Slack, discord, matrix clients (I use element and neochat) are a dream in comparison. I realize I'm probably in the minority but I feel those milliseconds hard and it's a tough pill to swallow when one of the most responsive electron based apps happens to be made by the same corporation...If I could use Teams chat in vscode lol...of course I'm being facetious but god damn Microsoft could use some cross-pollination right now.

Re:EU opens Microsoft antitrust investigation into Teams bun... by mschuster91 on Thursday July 27, 2023 @01:55PM (#36897571)
> Makes absolutely zero sense. You set yourself away, or the system sets you as away and messages come in silently.

The latter option needs a time threshold and risks either annoyed coworkers or the system going off unintentionally while watching a youtube video. For the former, I'm one of those people who constantly forget to remove AFK when they are back from whatever. I'm rarely looking at the small blip in the top right corner of Teams to notice that.

> To save bandwidth? Probably to monitor workers.

Employers these days have far better tools to monitor their slaves.

> of course I'm being facetious but god damn Microsoft could use some cross-pollination right now.

You're not alone. It seems the only ones getting this somewhat right are AWS and Apple. Everyone else is just working in silos - and even though Apple is infamous for that, they still manage to deliver seamlessly integrated solutions and uniform design/UX.

Re:EU opens Microsoft antitrust investigation into Teams bun... by vladvasiliu on Friday July 28, 2023 @01:54AM (#36903468)
Actually, the whole away / notification thing is a dumpster fire. I sometimes use two PCs, a Windows one with Teams and all that crapware, and a Linux one where I get my work done. So the Windows pc will often be in screensaver mode. It will still go "bling" from time to time when I get a Teams message. Teams is set to use Windows notifications instead of its own, but it ignores the Windows setting to disable sounds. It will also show its specific notification when I'm invited to join a call.

I've also not found an option to only enable the sound for people calling while disabling it for random chat messages.

As to the away thing, I've noticed that it will set itself to away if the pc session is locked. Not sure if it's the locking itself that triggers it, or just a timeout. But when I get back on the PC, it'll stay in away mode as long as I don't interact with the Teams app.

Also, the whole indicator thing is an absolute joke. I've been multiple times on calls with people who appeared as offline for the entire duration of the call.