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Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by antisthenes on Thursday July 27, 2023 @09:36AM (#36893277)
> Seems like it’s common across all EVs for the range to be inflated by around 20%, at least for freeway driving.

Most people speed on the freeway. Extra speed reduces range significantly.

Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by Y_Y on Thursday July 27, 2023 @09:45AM (#36893392)
IMHO comments like this are much more valuable with some numbers.

The linked figure[0] and associated paper report that efficiency peaks for EVs at around 20mph and then the cost per mile increases roughly linearly, by about 25 watt-hours when the speed increases by 10mph.

Please excuse the archaic units.

[0] https://www.researchgate.net/figure/ehicle-energy-economy-at...

Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by vel0city on Thursday July 27, 2023 @09:56AM (#36893565)
The Tesla Roadster is an absolutely ancient EV.
Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by Y-bar on Thursday July 27, 2023 @09:45AM (#36893393)
This.

And it is true of petrol cars as well. In my old clunker going from 110 km/h to 120km/h is a 9% speed increase but nets about 15% extra fuel consumption.

Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by JimtheCoder on Thursday July 27, 2023 @09:59AM (#36893625)
Is this with the windows up or windows down...?
Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by Y-bar on Thursday July 27, 2023 @10:21AM (#36893998)
Yes.
Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by pi-rat on Thursday July 27, 2023 @09:57AM (#36893591)
And much more than one would intuitively think.

I just finished a long drive for summer vacation. Driving through Denmark (completely flat) at 130 km/h would absolutely wipe the battery, would be surprised if I managed even 350 km on a full charge. Driving over the mountains in Norway however, from 0m elevation to over 1000m and down again, at slower mountain roads (max 80 km/h), yielded almost 500 km on single charge.

I did not expect flat+high speed vs hill-climbing+low speed would be that dramatically different.

Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by brookst on Thursday July 27, 2023 @10:03AM (#36893688)
Air resistance is proportional to square of velocity. That goes up pretty quickly!
Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by aaronblohowiak on Thursday July 27, 2023 @10:48AM (#36894429)
And the power required to move against the air goes up by the cube of speed (as you multiply the resistance times your speed itself.)
Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by medvezhenok on Thursday July 27, 2023 @11:42PM (#36902927)
I imagine that regenerative braking has a role here too. When you're going downhill the battery can recharge itself to some extent.
Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by philwelch on Thursday July 27, 2023 @07:00PM (#36901239)
Yes, but Tesla goes out of their way to advertise how fast their cars are, so you think they'd expect and factor for this kind of driving behavior.
Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by m463 on Friday July 28, 2023 @02:30AM (#36903639)