Re:When did people stop being drunk all the time?
by blululu on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @04:51AM
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Universal prohibition (18th amendment) predates universal suffrage (19th amendment) by a few years, but the two movements had a lot of overlap, and women did widely support the idea and were used to motivate the concept. That said the two are not everywhere the same: the South was had more support for prohibition than suffrage and the west was much more for the right to vote than banning whisky. But also prohibition in the US goes back much farther. Toqueville mentions the idea favorably, many religious movements advocated some form of it (Mormons, shakers, Mennonites,…), and most eastern states still retain a variety of blue laws that restrict alcohol sales and several colleges still retain local prohibitions from 150 years ago.
Re:When did people stop being drunk all the time?
by detourdog on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @05:04AM
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My grandfather had a worker who’s was drunk all the time. my grandfather would pick him and drop him off and always paid his wife. This would end sometime in the 50’s.
Re:When did people stop being drunk all the time?
by matwood on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @07:07AM
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3.8% is fairly low alcohol content. Someone with any tolerance could sip those most of the day and not ever appear drunk.
Re:When did people stop being drunk all the time?
by dghughes on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @10:13AM
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It's good to note that tolerance to alcohol is bad. It means your body has been damaged and is no longer responding to alcohol as it once did, to protect your organs.
edit: I should also note tolerance to alcohol is a warning that much greater problems are imminent. It is a red flag.
Re:When did people stop being drunk all the time?
by tornadofart on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @10:39AM
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I take it is a red flag concerning addiction and its consequences, but did you have other specific "greater problems " in mind? Just out of curiosity...
Re:When did people stop being drunk all the time?
by dghughes on Thursday July 27, 2023 @06:37AM
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Greater problems is not what I have in mind it's biology. Such things as fatty liver and then cirrhosis. Alcohol tolerance is just the tip of that iceberg. The phrase "alcohol tolerance" belies its powerful meaning.
Re:When did people stop being drunk all the time?
by PaulDavisThe1st on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @11:24AM
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There's an interesting episode of "In Our Time" about the "temperance" movement in the late 1800s, primarily in the UK but also a little in the US. It was a much milder version of the sentiments that eventually (in the US) led to Prohibition. In Our Time makes it sound more like an early self-help movement.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0013zl8
ps. there's also some fascinating speculation at the end about connections between the temperance movement and early movements for women's rights and how that played out very differently on each side of the Atlantic.
Americans should probably date "stopping being drunk all the time" to Prohibition; the overwhelming national support for it, especially from newly enfranchised women(+), gives an idea as to how big a problem it was.
(+) As a non-American, I had to check this, and Prohibition very slightly pre-dates universal votes for women although both were in 1920 and it may be possible that the franchise differed by state? It's certainly true that women temperance campaigners were very important, given the role of alcohol in domestic violence and budgeting.