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Re:How Signal Walks the Line Between Anarchism and Pragmatism by gcanyon on Tuesday July 25, 2023 @05:31PM (#36869860)
> you can choose to live outside of society. That might be very difficult

Try "impossible". No person reading HN is prepared to forgo all of what civilization provides. There are probably a very few people on the planet, who are already living in an extremely isolated tribal setting, who could go it alone, but if they're reading HN I hope they'll speak up now, I'd love to hear their opinion on this.

Re:How Signal Walks the Line Between Anarchism and Pragmatism by dools on Tuesday July 25, 2023 @09:48PM (#36872179)
It’s not impossible at all there are millions of people who live lives of total lawlessness.
Re:How Signal Walks the Line Between Anarchism and Pragmatism by gcanyon on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @04:12AM (#36874549)
"lawlessness" <> "outside of society"

The clear implication of your original statement was that it is possible to not owe society anything by not taking anything from others. To do that requires a level of self-sufficiency that only a very small fraction of people possess.

Re:How Signal Walks the Line Between Anarchism and Pragmatism by dools on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @06:43AM (#36875488)
No, I said:

“For many, society doesn't provide any advantages and so they choose non-compliance and all the consequences that come with it.”

So what I mean is you can choose to live outside of society, meaning not complying with laws. That is lawlessness, it’s a life of crime.

Living as a sovereign citizen outside of any legal structure in such a way that you neither depend on any legal structure nor do you infringe upon any legal structure is very difficult, and available only to a very small number of people.

But anyone can choose lawlessness at any time.

Re:How Signal Walks the Line Between Anarchism and Pragmatism by gcanyon on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @03:33PM (#36883600)
And I’m saying that people who do that are ethically compromised in general, and dishonest if they think they are “outside of society” while still benefitting from mains electricity, mass-produced goods, etc.