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Re:I do not use psychedelics by mvncleaninst on Monday July 24, 2023 @06:25AM (#36845534)
> No, I was not trying to imply that.

> Psychedelics have a way of forcing you out of this ignorance

Is there a contradiction here? You said that you weren't saying that they transcend ignorance, and then say that they force you out of ignorance.

Which one is it?

Re:I do not use psychedelics by cb5r on Monday July 24, 2023 @06:46AM (#36845724)
No contradiction.

"to have a way of" does not mean that something is 100% certain to happen but that it frequently happens.

Re:I do not use psychedelics by mvncleaninst on Monday July 24, 2023 @06:56AM (#36845819)
But are you saying that in the cases where it frequently does happen, that the people who experienced it have somehow "transcended ignorance"? What does that mean in practice
Re:I do not use psychedelics by cb5r on Monday July 24, 2023 @08:30AM (#36846908)
One can be ignorant in different aspects. In various situations, one walks around with blinders on. One "only sees what one wants to see", because the brain filters out everything else that does not match ones world view - which is based on ones knowledge and, especially, beliefs. Psychedelics can act as a trigger (as can other things as well) to temporarily remove these blinders, making one able to see/feel/experience things the brain always ignored before, ONCE. Now, that one has "seen" it, one can choose to incorporate this into ones world view and daily life. There are many stages to this, which are part of the "therapeutic process" of psychedelics.