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Re:Young people are flocking to astrology by jacquesm on Monday July 24, 2023 @05:54AM (#36845282)
My advice would be (if you're in it to make a living) to get out and move into finance.
Re:Young people are flocking to astrology by radicalbyte on Monday July 24, 2023 @06:40AM (#36845671)
How though? At least here (NL) the rewards aren't great until you get very senior, which is hard to do with a background in Software Engineering?
Re:Young people are flocking to astrology by jacquesm on Monday July 24, 2023 @06:48AM (#36845743)
Hm, I'm in NL as well and made the switch 15 years ago, compared to what I made writing software I regret not doing it much earlier. Note that 'finance' is a pretty wide area, I would suggest to see if you can work your way into some VC fund at the associate level with that background.
Re:Young people are flocking to astrology by radicalbyte on Friday July 28, 2023 @11:18AM (#36908116)
Thanks. That's certainly worth looking into; I switched to freelancing a decade ago and am now at the ceiling as an Engineering Lead and despite still being very effective as a hands-on engineer (coding for 30 years does that) am far more effective in a more strategic role.

I have friends who work in the M&A world (doing due diligence, C-level advise etc) both here in NL (you'll probably know them) and in the US/CA (in identity/credentials), guess I should have a chat with them :-)

But first I'm going to spend a few months doing something good - seeing if we can actually fix interoperability in healthcare in the EU. Lots of interesting things happening in that space ;-)

Re:Young people are flocking to astrology by hashtag-til on Monday July 24, 2023 @06:10AM (#36845401)
I've been thinking if I should mode from my soulless job in ML to a soulless job in finance.
Re:Young people are flocking to astrology by philipov on Monday July 24, 2023 @06:33AM (#36845617)
The "good" news is, pretty soon, they'll be the same thing!
Re:Young people are flocking to astrology by sillysaurusx on Monday July 24, 2023 @07:14AM (#36845994)
Just wanted to chime in and say that your “soulless job in ML” comment is relatable, and your experience isn’t unique. I had one too. I saved up a lot of money from it, but by the end it nearly cost me my remaining passion.

A soulless job in finance is better if you like(d) ML at all, because then you can keep your interests separate from your job.

Re:Young people are flocking to astrology by jacquesm on Monday July 24, 2023 @07:23AM (#36846092)
> because then you can keep your interests separate from your job

Interesting! I never made that connection but now that you mention it it is obvious. Thanks.

Re:Young people are flocking to astrology by kybernetikos on Monday July 24, 2023 @07:44AM (#36846297)
> A soulless job in finance is better if you like(d) ML at all, because then you can keep your interests separate from your job.

I did read somewhere that for someone trying to write a book in their spare time, a job in editing is the worst possible thing to have for a similar reason.

Re:Young people are flocking to astrology by jxidjhdhdhdhfhf on Monday July 24, 2023 @08:11AM (#36846635)
I don't get it. Do you think developers will experience some AI related job losses and finance people will not?
Re:Young people are flocking to astrology by hashtag-til on Monday July 24, 2023 @09:08AM (#36847370)
Well, for years now people have ben talking about a new AI bubble, that might burst at some point.

I've been in this area for a couple decades now and have seen technologies come and go, so I see my AI-related job now as just another generation of tools and making pretty sure that I keep my knowledge still valid in other non-AI related area in the tech space, so that I'm not a data-science/AI-framework-plumbing kind of person.

I keep an interest in standard C++ desktop development, which to me seem a safe harbour even time there is a collapse in some trendy technology.

Re:Young people are flocking to astrology by bovermyer on Monday July 24, 2023 @08:23AM (#36846790)
I don't think I hate anyone enough to advise them to get into finance as a profession.