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Re:Why even let users set their own passwords? by samwillis on Saturday July 22, 2023 @12:59PM (#36827804)
Or the third to to illustrate the argument in another context.

I usually avoid analogies of HN as you are often called out on the technicalities of them. And you are right that can often damage an argument.

However, I have argued that changing peoples behaviour, even when their current behaviour is bad for them, is often impossible despite all evidence, from the beginning.

Re:Why even let users set their own passwords? by anderspitman on Saturday July 22, 2023 @04:10PM (#36829397)
> Or the third to to illustrate the argument in another context.

This is still case 1.

I actually agree with you that some people with bad security habits will never change their behavior, but do you really feel that someone using passwords in a notebook because that's what they're comfortable with is in the same class of behavior as someone addicted to nicotine?

Feel free to have the last word here. 1 on 1 HN threads more than 3 deep rarely result in productive conversation. Cheers