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Re:Big Tech as the New Big Tobacco by scarface_74 on Friday July 21, 2023 @07:05PM (#36821186)
So how do you propose to break them up.

And which one has a “monopoly” to the point you can’t choose an alternative?

People are using their own free will to use their products

Re:Big Tech as the New Big Tobacco by CPLX on Friday July 21, 2023 @07:51PM (#36821613)
> So how do you propose to break them up.

Court order, legislation.

> And which one has a “monopoly” to the point you can’t choose an alternative?

Google, Meta, Amazon, Microsoft, for starters.

By the way that’s not the definition of a monopoly.

> People are using their own free will to use their products

From an artificially constrained set of options. Anti competitive behavior has clear definable negative outcomes, you can feign confusion if you want but it’s not confusing.

Or, if it’s easier for you, you can just understand that organizations that wield massive amounts of power over the daily lives of ordinary citizens must be governed and restrained by democratic process in order for society to function.

Re:Big Tech as the New Big Tobacco by scarface_74 on Friday July 21, 2023 @07:57PM (#36821665)
> Court order, legislation.

That’s not what I meant. What would a break up for them look like? For instance AT&T was broken up into the baby bells.

> From an artificially constrained set of options

There is no other option for phones? Social media? Computers? Online commerce? And how is it “artificial”?

> Or, if it’s easier for you, you can just understand that organizations that wield massive amounts of power over the daily lives of ordinary citizens

So what is this “power”? How are they forcing you to do anything you don’t want to do?

Re:Big Tech as the New Big Tobacco by cratermoon on Friday July 21, 2023 @08:52PM (#36822051)
There's a little book by James Williams titled Stand out of our Light: Freedom and Resistance in the Attention Economy that I highly recommend. <https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/stand-out-of-our-light/...> If you're not up for a whole book, however short, Ian Leslie's "The scientists who make apps addictive" is a great primer.<https://www.economist.com/1843/2016/10/20/the-scientists-who...>
Re:Big Tech as the New Big Tobacco by scarface_74 on Friday July 21, 2023 @09:25PM (#36822244)
And you still also haven’t come up with a reasonable way to “break up the BigTech”. If you ban the sale of apps with in game purchases that still doesn’t break up tech
Re:Big Tech as the New Big Tobacco by CPLX on Saturday July 22, 2023 @07:09AM (#36825245)
Breaking up big tech is straightforward. You order Google to spin off the ads business, Amazon to split out AWS, Meta to split Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp into separate companies and so on.
Re:Big Tech as the New Big Tobacco by cratermoon on Saturday July 22, 2023 @01:17PM (#36827962)
Did you know Amazon owns its own freight airline, called Amazon Air? Here's a few other things that could be split: AbeBooks, Book Depository, Goodreads, Audible; IMDb, Zappos, Twitch, Curse, Inc., Whole Foods, Ring, Egghead Software, Digital Photography Review, all the companies Amazon acquired and put into Kindle while killing off competing products, MGM studios, and a few dozen others.
Re:Big Tech as the New Big Tobacco by cratermoon on Friday July 21, 2023 @08:49PM (#36822032)
Lina Khan explains it all: Amazon’s Antitrust Paradox <https://www.yalelawjournal.org/note/amazons-antitrust-parado...>
Re:Big Tech as the New Big Tobacco by scarface_74 on Friday July 21, 2023 @09:38PM (#36822319)
Amazons share of commerce is 37% and it’s share of commerce is even smaller.
Re:Big Tech as the New Big Tobacco by cratermoon on Saturday July 22, 2023 @01:18PM (#36827968)
OK now include all things Amazon owns: Amazon Air, AbeBooks, Book Depository, Goodreads, Audible; IMDb, Zappos, Twitch, Curse, Inc., Whole Foods, Ring, Egghead Software, Digital Photography Review, all the companies Amazon acquired and put into Kindle while killing off competing products, MGM studios