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Re:Quench of LHC inner triplet magnet causes a small leak wi... by simonjgreen on Friday July 21, 2023 @07:34AM (#36812609)
That's sounds horrific. It makes me wonder what proportion of time you'd spend massaging and debugging your lab equipment vs. actually using it?
Re:Quench of LHC inner triplet magnet causes a small leak wi... by gaze on Friday July 21, 2023 @07:40AM (#36812661)
For an experimental physicist you basically debug until you get the data for your paper or until you find your sample is bad. So you’re debugging 99% of the time.
Re:Quench of LHC inner triplet magnet causes a small leak wi... by causality0 on Friday July 21, 2023 @08:52AM (#36813179)
It's like a high-end fighter jet. An F-22 needs 43 man-hours of maintenance per flight hour.
Re:Quench of LHC inner triplet magnet causes a small leak wi... by gus_massa on Friday July 21, 2023 @08:52AM (#36813186)
And that does not include the problems with electric wires. We had an unofficial rule: after half an hour debugging the electric wires just change all of them. I still have nightmares about BNC connectors.
Re:Quench of LHC inner triplet magnet causes a small leak wi... by gaze on Friday July 21, 2023 @11:30AM (#36814963)
That’s a pretty terrible rule. Unless you’re rolling over them with chair wheels, a bad BNC cable should be easy to spot by visual inspection. In my 20 years of instrumentation work it’s rarely the cable.
Re:Quench of LHC inner triplet magnet causes a small leak wi... by gus_massa on Friday July 21, 2023 @01:41PM (#36816921)
It was a students' lab, where each device is connected and disconnected 2 or 3 times per day, 5 days per week. The wires get a lot of use and abuse.

Usually the problem is the tip that got slightly loose and the signal is now intermittent or null. IIRC, when we detected the wrong wire we had to put it in a box and the guy in charge of the lab equipment would fix it later.

Re:Quench of LHC inner triplet magnet causes a small leak wi... by dekhn on Friday July 21, 2023 @11:39AM (#36815075)
To that rule, my team added another: when throwing away the cable, cut it in half. So nobody scrounges a cable out of the garbage can only to waste more time debugging a bad cable.
Re:Quench of LHC inner triplet magnet causes a small leak wi... by throwawaymobule on Saturday July 22, 2023 @09:07AM (#36825920)
I try to do this with every cable I throw out, and encourage anyone to do the same. Flaky HDMI especially.
Re:Quench of LHC inner triplet magnet causes a small leak wi... by ThePhysicist on Friday July 21, 2023 @09:39AM (#36813606)
Basically 2-3 years of getting everything to work and testing each component, than 2-4 weeks of good measurements that comprise the main results of the PhD thesis.
Re:Quench of LHC inner triplet magnet causes a small leak wi... by techdragon on Friday July 21, 2023 @11:38PM (#36822990)
Shame they don’t give you any extra certification or recognition for more than two years of learning about the care and maintenance of cryogenic high vacuum systems… that’s a whole persons job in some places!

I’m not looking forward to thermal vacuum testing for my robots… because I don’t think there’s a big enough chamber in Australia… option one is (assuming funding) building a thermal vacuum chamber that can get down to GEO level vacuum with all the fun a large volume vacuum system entails… option two is shipping the entire thing to a friendly country with larger chambers (ESA in EU or NASA in the USA) but then there’s the space technology export paperwork … and I don’t know which would be worse.

Re:Quench of LHC inner triplet magnet causes a small leak wi... by NotYourLawyer on Friday July 21, 2023 @03:59PM (#36818873)
If you’ve got an apparatus with 20 parts (a low estimate) and they’re all independently 95% reliable (a high estimate), it’s only gonna be in a usable state 36% of the time.