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Re:Study finds billions of nanoplastics released when microw... by epolanski on Friday July 21, 2023 @04:12AM (#36811322)
> I think the effects are being exaggerated.

Are they?

The article points out that effects of nanoplastics on humans are still unclear.

Re:Study finds billions of nanoplastics released when microw... by XorNot on Friday July 21, 2023 @04:38AM (#36811477)
Unclear means no one's got a plausible mechanism, which for the widespread existence of them being implied is a bit of a problem.

They're inert long chain polymers, and amongst other things you need to show bioavailability in the area t you propose would cause damage at sufficient concentrations.

In the current case: how efficiently do nanoplastics cross from the digestive system to the blood stream, how long do they persist before being filtered out by the kidneys, do they retain their structure in the blood stream unchanged, is their a lower limit on toxicity.

i.e. injecting someone with enough pure water will also damage their organs, exposing kidney cells to silica dust in solution in huge concentration would also kill them but there's no way for it to get there.

Re:Study finds billions of nanoplastics released when microw... by Dah00n on Friday July 21, 2023 @05:24AM (#36811764)
But micro plastic have been found in newborns, so why not avoid it until science isn't unclear? Seems to be the smart way but I'm no expert.
Re:Study finds billions of nanoplastics released when microw... by XorNot on Friday July 21, 2023 @07:05AM (#36812374)
Here's the thing about that: lots of particles have been found in the placenta[1]. In the case of the study that found microplastics[2], they found 12 particles in 4% of the volume. 12 - total. So maybe 300 total particles. In about 600 total grams of placenta. It's difficult to put a scale on how few that actually is.

So the issue here is we're not really talking about a unique threat, just a vector of an existing one. In terms of bioactive compounds which could find their way to the placenta, metals and carbonaceous soot are going to be a lot worse then inert plastics (of note: the paper involved notes that the primary possible mechanism is the microplastic acting as a carrier delivering bioactive molecule - not the material itself).

It is also worth noting that in the same study, 2 of the studied placental samples showed no microplastic contamination. Which is to say, given the transport mechanism proposed - inhalation of particles - it's quite likely that the medium is not things ingested in the GI tract, but rather airborne contaminants.

Which would make a lot more sense, seeing as how if micro or nanoparticles were routingly migrating through the gut, we'd suffer serious problems with bacterial infection, or just dealing with something like soluble fiber (which is essentially a plastic - long chain cellulose - that isn't digested).

So the question isn't "why not avoid it?" it's, "are you even avoiding it?" The GI tract is a relatively robust system that's very good at rejecting the external world from it. Whereas your lungs are pretty much a direct link to the blood from the atmosphere.

[1] https://www.qmul.ac.uk/media/news/2020/smd/air-pollution-par...

[2] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016041202...

Re:Study finds billions of nanoplastics released when microw... by wyldfire on Friday July 21, 2023 @08:41AM (#36813116)
Aren't there documented impacts of additives like bisphenol A as endocrine disruptors?