Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by tifik on Thursday July 20, 2023 @10:58AM (#36801467)

If they choose to sure, but I dont see what incentive they would have. After all, the post is about a company removing products from a market rather than being subject to a law that would allow the gov to force them to do so.

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Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by smoldesu on Thursday July 20, 2023 @11:07AM (#36801600)

> but I dont see what incentive they would have.

They are frequently subpoenaed for information, and turn over that data more often than not: https://www.apple.com/legal/transparency/us.html

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Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by tifik on Thursday July 20, 2023 @11:10AM (#36801657)

Yeah, because they are asked to/legally required. I was questioning incentives to hand over information on their own accord, just because they can.

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Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by smoldesu on Thursday July 20, 2023 @11:25AM (#36801905)

All of these are their own accord. That's even what OP's article is about - if Apple is legally required to break their encryption in the EU, then they will discontinue their product.

Let's not pretend this is a privacy-motivated decision. Where Apple doesn't have negotiating power (eg. China) they have been forced to compromise user safety and privacy[0]. We live in a post XKeyscore world, pretending like this doesn't also happen in America or the UK is a bedtime story for helpless capitalists.

[0] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208351

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Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by MichaelZuo on Thursday July 20, 2023 @12:47PM (#36803222)

Huh? Isn't this story about the possibility of the UK government legally requiring Apple to do something?

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