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Re:GPT-4 is getting worse over time, not better by pessimizer on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @12:37PM (#36789214)
Humans are definitely aligned, and for the same reasons as a LLM. Socialization, being allowed to work, being allowed to speak.

edit: It's a social faux pas to say "died" about a person acquainted to the listener in most situations, you have to say "passed away."

Re:GPT-4 is getting worse over time, not better by digging on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @01:04PM (#36789708)
> Humans are definitely aligned

Yes, that's why climate change was rapidly addressed when we began to understand it well 60 years ago and why war has always been so rare in human history.

Re:GPT-4 is getting worse over time, not better by hcurtiss on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @01:16PM (#36789881)
It seems "aligned" is in the eye of the beholder.
Re:GPT-4 is getting worse over time, not better by slowmovintarget on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @02:32PM (#36791091)
Cue Mrs. Slokam's "...and I am unanimous in that!"

Aligned LLMs are just like altered brains... they don't function properly.

Re:GPT-4 is getting worse over time, not better by digging on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @04:27PM (#36792719)
Not agreed at all. Causing global ecosystem collapse is unambiguously misaligned with human interests and with the interests of almost all other life forms. You need to define what "Alignment" means to you if you're going to assert humans are "aligned", because it is accepted in alignment research that humans are not aligned, which is one of the fundamental problems in the space.
Re:GPT-4 is getting worse over time, not better by epcoa on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @01:46PM (#36790344)
> It's a social faux pas to say "died" about a person acquainted to the listener in most situations

That’s overly simplistic and an Americanism. The resurgence of the “passed away” euphemism is a recent (about 40 years) phenomenon in American English which seems to have been started out of the funeral industry as prior to that “died” was nearly universal for both news stories and obituaries.

“Died” is not a social faux pas. It’s the good default option as well. Medical professionals are often trained to avoid any euphemisms for death. I’ve never observed any problems professionally (as is standard) or personally using died even with folks that are religious.

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/207087/origin-of...

Re:GPT-4 is getting worse over time, not better by oceanplexian on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @05:26PM (#36793662)
I have never use the phrase passed away.

Always died, dead, gone, or something along those lines. When someone says passed away it sounds like they are trying to feign empathy, but hey, perhaps I am not an “aligned” human and need some RLHF.

Re:GPT-4 is getting worse over time, not better by epcoa on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @08:53PM (#36795629)
I used to live in the south 30 years ago. I remember some southern baptist moms that wouldn't say the word "dead" - sometimes they'd spell it out, lol, similar to the way some people consider hell a swear word. This kind of hypersensitivity wasn't common outside of limited circles then, and it's certainly not more common today.

Similarly I wouldn't consider saying hell in public in 2023 to be a social faux pas.