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Re:Silicon Valley’s business model is a scam by musicale on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @11:05AM (#36773625)
> Uber/Lyft did outcompete taxis on merit, and to suggest otherwise is revisionist history

> People talk about how Uber/Lyft dodged taxi regulation, which is true

Taxis sucked (and still do), but Uber/Lyft's not-so-secret sauce was regulatory evasion, claiming that their taxi service wasn't a taxi service and that their employees weren't employees.

Re:Silicon Valley’s business model is a scam by droopyEyelids on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @11:09AM (#36773707)
Also Uber/Lyft were "dumping" their product, selling rides below cost by partially funding every ride with VC investment money.

This made their product artificially competitive.

Re:Silicon Valley’s business model is a scam by tanjtanjtanj on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @11:56AM (#36774542)
I always see people say this but I don't know how they were subsidizing rides. I was an early Uber driver when I was in grad school and I received roughly 2/3rds of what riders paid. Was Uber's third take too low?

I would also receive a lower fare when the rider used a coupon or had a promotion. It always seemed more like I was subsidizing the rides rather than Uber.

Re:Silicon Valley’s business model is a scam by mrguyorama on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @01:27PM (#36776182)
Maybe, just maybe, your singular experience is not accurately representative of Uber's business? You can go look up how they were clearly subsidizing fares.
Re:Silicon Valley’s business model is a scam by bamfly on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @12:02PM (#36774647)
Right—I'm sure they won some business because they were actually a better experience in some ways, but I've ridden in like three taxis ever in my nearly 40 years on this planet, and never in the place where I live, but have taken probably thirty or forty ubers/lyfts, most of them near home. Why? Taxis were too expensive, so I never even considered them an option. Ubers and Lyfts were stupid-cheap for a long time.