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Re:Medicine is plagued by untrustworthy clinical trials by p-e-w on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @09:53AM (#36772249)
> There should be Nutrition Facts but for scientific trials.

No, there should be prison time for scientists who conduct unethical trials or publish fake results.

The public (and policy makers) place such immense trust in those people and what they publish that nothing less is even remotely adequate.

When someone puts arsenic in food, they go to prison – labeling the food with "contains arsenic" doesn't cut it.

Do this and watch science magically fix itself.

Re:Medicine is plagued by untrustworthy clinical trials by twic on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @10:01AM (#36772380)
Which prison? As the article says:

> Ultimately, a lingering question is — as with paper mills — why so many suspect RCTs are being produced in the first place. Mol, from his experiences investigating the Egyptian studies, blames lack of oversight and superficial assessments that promote academics on the basis of their number of publications, as well as the lack of stringent checks from institutions and journals on bad practices.

A substantial part of what's happening here is that first-world countries with generally good cultures of research integrity are basing medical policy on studies done in countries where the system encourages researchers to cheat. British and US authorities can't put Egyptian or Chinese researchers in prison, can they?

Re:Medicine is plagued by untrustworthy clinical trials by p-e-w on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @10:14AM (#36772614)
There's no shortage of scientific fraud happening in the "first world" also. Dealing with those people would be a good start.
Re:Medicine is plagued by untrustworthy clinical trials by chaxor on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @11:41AM (#36774285)
This is the correct answer. Typically if something is done at an ivy league, other US and UK universities follow. Perhaps the other countries would follow as well shortly after that, or there would just be a divide between 'real' research and 'not', similar to when many of my friends stop reading after the word 'Hindawi'.
Re:Medicine is plagued by untrustworthy clinical trials by ekianjo on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @10:00AM (#36772363)
Revoke their license and titles to start with so they cannot operate anymore in the field
Re:Medicine is plagued by untrustworthy clinical trials by Spinnaker_ on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @10:07AM (#36772493)
I would like to see Universities take the lead here. A bunch of high profile degree revocations would generate some waves at least.
Re:Medicine is plagued by untrustworthy clinical trials by tcmart14 on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @01:01PM (#36775694)
As reasonable as that would be. I feel like it would just turn into people getting their degrees revoke claiming 'cancel culture' and becoming gurus with many mindless followers pushing loose weight quick schemes kind of thing. Because today if you face consequences, its no longer your fault, its everyone else trying to cancel you from doing the bad thing you are doing.
Re:Medicine is plagued by untrustworthy clinical trials by neaden on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @11:28AM (#36774051)
Just to be clear, if you actually did this what you would see is stuff Florida lock up every climatologist for doing "false science".
Re:Medicine is plagued by untrustworthy clinical trials by LorenPechtel on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @01:18PM (#36776021)
They would have to prove it to a jury.

I do agree it would be a major deterrent to doing such research, but as it stands you'll get fired for it anyway which is a pretty major deterrent.

Re:Medicine is plagued by untrustworthy clinical trials by psychlops on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @03:33PM (#36778046)
It wouldn't be limited to Florida. Elsewhere, having any reasonable questions about the severity regarding the religion of Climate Change would get one jailed for blasphemy.
Re:Medicine is plagued by untrustworthy clinical trials by t0bia_s on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @04:25PM (#36778611)
- Do this and watch science magically fix itself.

Imagine same approach in politics. If some politics put lies in their speeches to manipulate with people, we should call them liers and put them in prison. But somehow it doesn't happen. Looks like society prefer conformity over responsibility.