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Re:the US economy and the EU were the same size in 2008, the... by jakewins on Monday July 17, 2023 @07:57PM (#36765854)
Isn’t this assuming people stay in fixed “compartments” over their lifetime?

My experience with social safety nets in EU is that they have been there when I’ve needed them - when I was a poor student, when I was sick — and now that I’m in a different life phase I pay that forward

Your math makes sense at any given instant, but who is on what side changes if you view it over time

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Re:the US economy and the EU were the same size in 2008, the... by rafaelero on Monday July 17, 2023 @08:06PM (#36765936)
Take a look at net contribution to Danish welfare state over time. https://www.economist.com/sites/default/files/images/print-e...
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Re:the US economy and the EU were the same size in 2008, the... by nonethewiser on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @12:00AM (#36767644)
Danish are the highest contributors with Western immigrants close behind. Non western immigrants contribute a lot less and MENAPT (middle east, north africa, pakistan, and turkey) are doing even worse.
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Re:the US economy and the EU were the same size in 2008, the... by lukas099 on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @09:56AM (#36772302)
The immigrants will have children that will be better-acclimated and contribute more, no?
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Re:the US economy and the EU were the same size in 2008, the... by rafaelero on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @11:20AM (#36773926)
The graph includes the descendents.
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Re:the US economy and the EU were the same size in 2008, the... by lukas099 on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @01:56PM (#36776662)
I see, thanks.
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Re:the US economy and the EU were the same size in 2008, the... by lukas099 on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @01:46PM (#36790342)
Approximately how many generations of descendants are included? Is it possible that intaking non-western immigrants is an investment that will pay off in the future, but the payoff has not materialized yet?
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