Re:Ask HN: What ever happened to the “coming wave” of delive...
by S201 on Monday July 17, 2023 @07:35PM
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As usual, the difference is energy density between hydrocarbon fuels and Li-ion batteries. Power the drone with gas and it becomes a different story. But then you just re-created the helicopter and all the problems which explain why no one is doing helicopter package deliveries.
Re:Ask HN: What ever happened to the “coming wave” of delive...
by l33t233372 on Monday July 17, 2023 @07:32PM
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I would bet that even the worst Amazon truck gets more pounds of product per Joule expended than the best drone for any reasonably real world distance/load.
Re:Ask HN: What ever happened to the “coming wave” of delive...
by BizarroLand on Monday July 17, 2023 @07:59PM
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The difference is both direct ground contact and fuel capacity.
Even if a drone could carry the energy equivalent of a 20 gallon fuel tank with it, it would waste the majority of that energy both keeping itself and its energy aloft.
Tires and other ground plane vehicles, mitigate the majority of that waste in exchange for increased navigational difficulty (regarding obstacles like buildings and trees but also moving objects like vehicles in its path).
The self-driving robots made some sense but only for very local (couple of block radius) delivery.
Re:Ask HN: What ever happened to the “coming wave” of delive...
by SAI_Peregrinus on Monday July 17, 2023 @10:42PM
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And fixed-wing aircraft are substantially more efficient than rotorcraft.
Re:Ask HN: What ever happened to the “coming wave” of delive...
by BizarroLand on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @11:52AM
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Anything that does not have to be constantly and continuously pumped with more energy in order to not immediately crash is going to be more efficient than the alternative.
A paraglider drone with a tiny parachute would be more efficient than any 3/4/6/8 motor drone copter
Re:Ask HN: What ever happened to the “coming wave” of delive...
by NovaDudely on Monday July 17, 2023 @07:51PM
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Amazon's delivery always felt odd to me because of this exact situation. Long term how sustainable can it be to work on such an extreme scale like that? The margins they must be hiding on via products must be good.
Re:Ask HN: What ever happened to the “coming wave” of delive...
by Incipient on Monday July 17, 2023 @07:52PM
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Hovering like a drone has to overcome gravity, which is hard/expensive. A truck only has to overcome rolling friction, which is easy/cheap.
Re:Ask HN: What ever happened to the “coming wave” of delive...
by jareklupinski on Monday July 17, 2023 @07:55PM
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you probably paid at least $5 for that cable, but the cost of materials in the cable was likely less than a dollar
the rest of the money went into the gas tank of the truck
you and everyone else who ordered a cable that day on that route chipped in to fill the truck up
I'm not sure the laws of physics are on the side of the status quo here.