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Re:Signal's president vows to reject UK law on message scann... by pacifika on Saturday July 15, 2023 @12:58PM (#36738779)
Hasn’t Apple already shown it’s possible to add another party silently to an encrypted exchange?

> Passwords: Users can now create a group to share a set of passwords. Everyone in a group can add and edit passwords to keep them up to date, and since sharing is through iCloud Keychain, it’s end-to-end encrypted.

So there goes the backdoor encryption argument, it’s possible to add another member to a group of people with on device access?

Re:Signal's president vows to reject UK law on message scann... by dreamcompiler on Saturday July 15, 2023 @01:11PM (#36738918)
Adding backdoors to crypto algorithms is easy. What's impossible is ensuring the backdoors can only be used by the good guys.

What's also impossible is ensuring the good guys don't abuse their backdoors and thus become bad guys.

Re:Signal's president vows to reject UK law on message scann... by enigmurl on Saturday July 15, 2023 @01:10PM (#36738908)
Isnt this more analogous to an end-to-end encrypted group chat than a backdoor?
Re:Signal's president vows to reject UK law on message scann... by immibis on Saturday July 15, 2023 @01:53PM (#36739357)
Secretly turning every two-party encrypted conversation into a three-party encrypted conversation is a backdoor.
Re:Signal's president vows to reject UK law on message scann... by tcfhgj on Saturday July 15, 2023 @02:15PM (#36739538)
Apple is developing the whole OS, they can always snoop, because everything is closed source. Also I loud backup isn't e2ee anyways
Re:Signal's president vows to reject UK law on message scann... by godelski on Saturday July 15, 2023 @03:21PM (#36740070)
> because everything is closed source

We have to be clear that closed source doesn't imply vulnerabilities. It just means it is hard to check. But we are also talking about one of the most researched devices w.r.t. security. If a backdoor is ever found, boy will there be hell to pay and I'm pretty sure Apple shares will take a really big hit. Especially as they've pivoted their marketing towards privacy.