Tinygrad and rusticl and aco: why not?

Re:Tinygrad and rusticl and aco: why not? by rhn_mk1 on Saturday July 15, 2023 @09:30AM (#36736570)

Rusticl seems a bit hidden for all the (positive) noise it creates.

I'd like to try it out, but:

- are there any distributions shipping it? - what hardware does it support?

I can guess that distros are not shipping it due to some stability concerns (which I could not see so far). I'm also guessing that despite being a Gallium driver, some features will depend on the capabilities of the underlying hardware. Can I hope that my AMD APU will finally get some OpenCL support?

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Re:Tinygrad and rusticl and aco: why not? by brucethemoose2 on Saturday July 15, 2023 @10:36AM (#36737183)

> Can I hope that my AMD APU will finally get some OpenCL support?

What APU is it? OpenCL support goes back pretty far.

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Re:Tinygrad and rusticl and aco: why not? by rhn_mk1 on Saturday July 15, 2023 @10:42AM (#36737232)

I haven't found anything for the Vega 8 that would run on Linux.

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Re:Tinygrad and rusticl and aco: why not? by brucethemoose2 on Saturday July 15, 2023 @10:50AM (#36737305)

? I have had OpenCL on my 4900HS for awhile, just through the Mesa OpenCL driver.

I believe my really old Llano (2011) APU even had OpenCL support. It was a selling point at the time.

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Re:Tinygrad and rusticl and aco: why not? by sspiff on Saturday July 15, 2023 @11:42AM (#36737816)

Same, it just works on my Debian powered home server with 5800H with just the Mesa ICD installed.

Not that it really matters for me, I only run wgpu compute stuff over Vulkan for my experiments.

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Re:Tinygrad and rusticl and aco: why not? by rhn_mk1 on Saturday July 15, 2023 @12:30PM (#36738430)

Hm, now I have to start asking questions of my OS.

For what it's worth, my Llano kept hanging up when I tried.

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Re:Tinygrad and rusticl and aco: why not? by brucethemoose2 on Saturday July 15, 2023 @03:26PM (#36740117)

You are probsbly just missing the driver, some linux distros dont ship it by default.

If you are on Windows... shrug.

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Re:Tinygrad and rusticl and aco: why not? by pantalaimon on Saturday July 15, 2023 @02:05PM (#36739458)

> what hardware does it support?

That’s the nice thing about it, it supports most hardware supported by Mesa going back even to r600 GPUs [0]. So anything Intel or AMD should work.

My guess for as to why distributions are not enabling it yet might be due to the Rust build dependency that might require a newer Rust version than what’s provided by the distribution.

[0] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/20...

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