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Re:Could an Industrial Civilization Have Predated Humans on ... by fsloth on Saturday July 15, 2023 @04:03AM (#36734625)
That’s basically a ”rapture” hypothesis. ”We can’t see them because of ancient technobabble sciencemagic lifted them to another realm”.

In otherwords this is a supernatural, not natural hypothesis.

In other words, that’s more of a religious rather than scientific hypothesis.

It’s cool to have inspiration from where-ever, the whole point of religion and art is that they don’t need to be scientific.

But one really shouldn’t confuse non-scientific inspiration with actual science. Confusing the two leads to arguments like earth is 6000 years old and god just faked all the fossil evidence etc.

Re:Could an Industrial Civilization Have Predated Humans on ... by bmitc on Saturday July 15, 2023 @04:18AM (#36734715)
> In other words, that’s more of a religious rather than scientific hypothesis.

I get what you're getting at, but I don't think it's so clear cut. Religion is more about organizational beliefs than just beliefs. Many parts of science are pretty far fetched in terms of us only knowing a bit with a very tightly constrained perspective (humans sitting on Earth with limited technology in the Solar System in the Milky Way) but making leaping conjectures. So in fact, science and religion have some shared analogues. (C.f. Paul Feyerabend.)

Certainly, the hypothesis you replied to is incredibly far fetched. But I don't think it's religious. It's more fantasy.

Re:Could an Industrial Civilization Have Predated Humans on ... by tiberious726 on Saturday July 15, 2023 @12:04PM (#36738096)
It's not falsifiable, therefore not scientific
Re:Could an Industrial Civilization Have Predated Humans on ... by bmitc on Saturday July 15, 2023 @05:31PM (#36741139)
To be clear, I didn't say it was scientific.
Re:Could an Industrial Civilization Have Predated Humans on ... by K0balt on Saturday July 15, 2023 @09:17AM (#36736433)
TBF we are assuming that we universally know what toolness looks like. There easily could be other forms of or paths to technology that we are completely ignorant of, even to the point of being ignorant of our ignorance.
Re:Could an Industrial Civilization Have Predated Humans on ... by Izkata on Saturday July 15, 2023 @02:42PM (#36739731)
A much less out-there version was in Star Trek, they built spaceships and left, bringing most/all of their civilization with them. That version was just treated as lost history, with whatever may have been left behind simply not having been found yet or having decayed over such a long time period.