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Re:Packages: The Way Forward for PHP by Mikushi on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @12:20PM (#3671917)
Finding hosting for PHP is not hard.

If you like Heroku, check out PhpFog.com or Orchestra.io. It's like magic too.

"PHP is not a good language" what is a good language? To take your example, I do enjoy the feel of PHP, it feels natural to read to me, and after years of using it I rarely have to check the documentation for function behavior (such as array_merge...).

Re:Packages: The Way Forward for PHP by dmansen on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @03:22PM (#3672676)
"...after years of using it I rarely have to check the documentation for function behavior (such as array_merge)."

This should not be something that takes years. I rarely have to check the documentation for similar Ruby functions after using it for only a couple months. After using PHP for 8 months straight, all day every day, I still had to look up almost every standard library function call - even if I thought I knew how it worked, I still had to check because the pervasive inconsistencies in the standard library ensured that I could never be confident in my guess.

(This is only the tip of the iceberg for why I don't like PHP and don't recommend people use it, for other reasons see: fatal errors vs. exceptions, the strange implementation of OOP (late static binding? isn't that an oxymoron?), and the numerous failing test cases / bugs that reveal themselves in every new release.)