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Re:Founder of crypto lender Celsius Network arrested, charge... by saurik on Thursday July 13, 2023 @02:02PM (#36713482)
There were (maybe even are) a ton of people playing Axie Infinity (an NFT rip-off of Pokémon) also; does that mean it isn't a security, because some people actually play it? When I was a kid I certainly knew people (including myself) who played Magic: The Gathering, and yet most of the reason we all bought as many cards as we did was the lottery and collectible trading mechanic.

If you are willing to admit that there are "utility" to these cards, then what makes them different from cryptocurrency projects that do the same? If the game weren't so popular--maybe it is one of the numerous card games we wouldn't quickly be able to name that are all rip-offs of the concept, but didn't have the juicy IP of Pokémon--would you then suddenly consider it a security?

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Re:Founder of crypto lender Celsius Network arrested, charge... by pessimizer on Thursday July 13, 2023 @02:43PM (#36714104)
If a crypto token has any utility other than being a balance on an account that can be traded (which some do, or at least purport to do), I think it should be a lot harder to call them a security. As most of them are though, they don't actually exist other than as an entry in a ledger.
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