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Re:Unprecedented ocean temps “surpassing model predictions,”... by uejfiweun on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @03:13PM (#36685897)
I agree, and also, I'm not really sure what one nation is supposed to do about it. The US can reduce its emissions all it wants, but good luck convincing China to do the same when it means they'll have to slow down their economy. Not to mention all the measures taken thus far, like mandating EVs and phasing out ICE cars, is just stupid virtue signaling when a single supertanker causes as much emissions as every car in the US combined.
Re:Unprecedented ocean temps “surpassing model predictions,”... by Natuerich on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @03:34PM (#36686185)
You know just because someone else doesn't play with you doesn't mean you should not play.

Or try.

And yes it makes a huge difference. China is not ignorant if the other world leaders change their whole economy to renewable.

On one site it's a huge market for China and it makes those countries independent. Energy rules the world.

And yes it makes a difference for me if I do my part and it didn't work out or if I did not.

Re:Unprecedented ocean temps “surpassing model predictions,”... by uejfiweun on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @07:33PM (#36688578)
Are you seriously comparing the massive economic impacts advocated by these policies to children playing? And yeah, feel free to give me a ring when China purposely weakens their own economy because they saw the West doing it - I'll buy you a beer.
Re:Unprecedented ocean temps “surpassing model predictions,”... by Natuerich on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @02:59AM (#36691250)
Yes.

And no I believe renewable is the next economy topic.

Transforming everything is a lot of jobs/work and will make energy cheaper and countries less dependent.

Re:Unprecedented ocean temps “surpassing model predictions,”... by uejfiweun on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @07:36PM (#36703171)
OK, fair enough. Sorry for the snark, I had a rough day yesterday. Would love to see a future filled with cheap, reliable, renewable energy.
Re:Unprecedented ocean temps “surpassing model predictions,”... by pstuart on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @02:55AM (#36691230)
More so, we can't expect China and others to play nice if we don't, so we should lead the way.
Re:Unprecedented ocean temps “surpassing model predictions,”... by nonsense_stream on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @11:42PM (#36690244)
This stems from ignorance on Chinese economy. China being a late comer to a lot of technologies means that a large portion of their research & patents are in relatively more recent fields, e.g. China has more expertise in manufacturing EVs compared to ICE cars, China is dominating the solar market when they are not as competitive in more traditional silicon industry. Not mentioning the "per capita" argument prevalent in most developing countries, in many occasions, the movement towards reducing emission is helping the economy instead of the opposite, signified by the recent surge of Chinese EVs rendering a lot of western brands obsolete there, VW among the most shocked. This applies or will apply to all the other third world countries such as India, as the mechanism behind this phenomenon is universal.