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Re:Emacs GUI Library by jfb on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @12:29PM (#36683366)
I have long wanted something that was basically a modern~ish Smalltalk environment, that spends more energy integrating with the rest of the world. Emacs is as close as we can get to a system that is inspectable, plastic, and open; I want those qualities in my entire computing environment, and there is literally nothing available for any price better than Emacs at this, but Emacs isn't good at it.
Re:Emacs GUI Library by omnicognate on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @12:41PM (#36683540)
Then go ahead and build it. All I'm saying is that A) that's a fork of emacs I won't be remotely interested in and B) I highly doubt starting with emacs will be good way to achieve it (but go ahead and try by all means).

(Anything that removes terminal support from emacs will be a fork.)

Re:Emacs GUI Library by jfb on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @12:45PM (#36683597)
Yeah, it's true. And Emacs would be a very poor substrate for this.
Re:Emacs GUI Library by iLemming on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @05:07PM (#36687225)
> (Anything that removes terminal support from emacs will be a fork.)

GNU/Emacs already has tons of features that don't work in terminal and it's not a fork. GUI has:

- better fonts and better colors

- childframe support, nice for posframes

- viewing images and pdfs

- SVG support

- icons and emojis

- etc.

Re:Emacs GUI Library by rileyphone on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @01:54PM (#36684670)
I believe the web currently possesses the capabilities to make a networked Emacs/Smalltalk style system, souped up with AI, targeting web applications that don't require downloads; I've been pursuing such a system for a while and hope to have a prototype soon. There isn't really anything like this - Emacs is stuck in Unix-land, Replit is tied to React/Next.js (blegh), and Urbit sees obscurity as a virtue.
Re:Emacs GUI Library by trenchgun on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @12:22AM (#36690453)
Re:Emacs GUI Library by guestbest on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @01:54AM (#36690896)
Is there a modern smalltalk that focuses on building TUI?