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Re:Shortening the Let's Encrypt Chain of Trust by yankput on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @04:11AM (#36677904)
It is in tech terms. Just deal with it.

Phones from 2016 are ancient and you can buy newer phones dirt cheap. The Samsung A series costs almost nothing, same with all the cheap Redmi phones and Oppo and whatnot.

Re:Shortening the Let's Encrypt Chain of Trust by Hackbraten on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @05:52AM (#36678621)
You can do it but that doesn’t mean you should.

Throwing away a phone whose hardware may be perfectly working, but its manufacturer decided to be too cheap to use anything but walled-garden components, feels like an utter waste of resources.

(By walled-garden components, I mean chips whose suppliers make it difficult or impossible to develop an open-source driver.)

Re:Shortening the Let's Encrypt Chain of Trust by yankput on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @06:26AM (#36678943)
If you really need that old phone, use Firefox Mobile which has its own root store.

But good luck using it

Re:Shortening the Let's Encrypt Chain of Trust by jesboat on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @08:26AM (#36680011)
This might be less of an option then you'd think. Android software is often compiled assuming the CPU has comparatively recent instruction set extensions. Older devices, especially lower-end devices (which are more likely to be stuck on older software and more likely to be owned by people without the resources to frequently upgrade), might lack those extensions, making the app unusable. This is not a hypothetical. I've experienced this with FF a couple years ago (and even spent a couple hours trying to figure out how to build from source, but ultimately gave up.)
Re:Shortening the Let's Encrypt Chain of Trust by 5e92cb50239222b on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @10:41AM (#36681668)
FWIW, I use Firefox on a 10 year old phone with Android 5.1, and it runs just fine. The phone is built on an x86 Atom SoC, though.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/75203/i...

Re:Shortening the Let's Encrypt Chain of Trust by charleslmunger on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @12:58AM (#36690622)
What extensions other than NEON are you thinking of? Neon was made a CDD requirement for Android 6.0, released on 2015. Even before that it was almost ubiquitous. The last shipping devices in any volume missing NEON were Tegra 2 tablets from 2011.
Re:Shortening the Let's Encrypt Chain of Trust by 5e92cb50239222b on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @10:38AM (#36681620)
That "almost nothing" is a typical blue collar monthly salary in my shitty town.