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Re:Sarah Silverman is suing OpenAI and Meta for copyright in... by mensetmanusman on Monday July 10, 2023 @08:18PM (#36674916)
It's worth challenging the length of copyright. 20 years seems good enough for high tech R&D, probably good for books as well.
Re:Sarah Silverman is suing OpenAI and Meta for copyright in... by throw10920 on Monday July 10, 2023 @09:26PM (#36675378)
Sure! Yes! I agree! 100 years is way too long. 20 years is much more reasonable. But the comment that I was responding to (and many others in this thread) are advocating for the complete removal of copyright, and that's what I'm responding to.
Re:Sarah Silverman is suing OpenAI and Meta for copyright in... by onlypositive on Monday July 10, 2023 @11:56PM (#36676251)
Most book sales are done within 5 years. It's drips after that.

On top of that, knowledge moves too fast these days for a 20 year right to be useful for society.

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Re:Sarah Silverman is suing OpenAI and Meta for copyright in... by jerojero on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @08:32PM (#36688992)
Corporations have personhood in the USA, no?

For the life of a human, yes, for the life of a corporation, it's long but not too long. Specially for corporations such as Disney which are sure to last for quite a while.

Not saying this is a justificable position. I'm actually in favour of drastically reducing copyright (I believe 7 to 15 years might be a sweetspot). But a lot of laws are not made for regular human people any longer.

Re:Sarah Silverman is suing OpenAI and Meta for copyright in... by holmesworcester on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @12:18PM (#36683172)
I was not advocating for the immediate complete removal; I acknowledged that this may be too disruptive.

I was simply reminding people what direction we should go in, and what the stakes are. Reducing copyright terms is a great solution, and yes something between 2 and 12 years is probably the right number to aim for as a first step. I agree with the above commenter that 20 is far too long, because 20-year-old material is slipping into irrelevance in many cases.

It's also good to remember that the only reason we have copyright (in the US, where "moral rights" are not a thing) is to stimulate the creation of more work. So we need to think about what configuration of copyright law actually stimulates more work, and we need to be willing to experiment.

Re:Sarah Silverman is suing OpenAI and Meta for copyright in... by Aerroon on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @03:13PM (#36685898)
Just to add: copyright is *not 100 years. It's 'the entire life of the author plus 70 years'.

If I make a YouTube video and live another 60 years, then people copying that video would still be committing copyright infringement in the year 2150.

That's just insane.