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Re:First U.S. Ban on Sale of Cellphone Location Data Might B... by 1vuio0pswjnm7 on Monday July 10, 2023 @05:35PM (#36673295)
"Krebs went on to cite an official at the Electronic Frontier Foundation who said cellular carriers by law are required to know the approximate location of customers in the event it's needed by emergency 911 services. Whether the carriers are permitted to sell or otherwise provide the information to other third parties is less clear. Expect there to be much more scrutiny about this in the coming weeks and months."

To see this in practice, check out MVNOs offering prepaid mobile service. Some will disable certain features unless this physical E911 address is submitted by the customer.

What if there were a limitation on how that data can be used.

Re:First U.S. Ban on Sale of Cellphone Location Data Might B... by Terr_ on Monday July 10, 2023 @06:14PM (#36673747)
> Krebs went on to cite an official at the Electronic Frontier Foundation who said cellular carriers by law are required to know the approximate location of customers in the event it's needed by emergency 911 services.

IANAL but the RAY BAUM’S act (yes, it's all caps because it's a silly initialism) only applies to location data that goes "with" a particular 911 call. Not your location before the call, nor your location after the call.

So if your cell-carrier is recording your location at all moments and persisting it indefinitely, no law was forcing them to do that, they are choosing to disrespect your privacy for their own profits or laziness.

Re:First U.S. Ban on Sale of Cellphone Location Data Might B... by sacnoradhq on Monday July 10, 2023 @09:02PM (#36675234)
E911 came about to address lost and immobilized callers.

Unfortunately, it's inconsistently deployed and not universally usable. This is likely the result of a lack of a sufficiently-staffed regulatory body auditing for compliance and correctness because it doesn't work everywhere with all phones on all carriers even when there is the technical ability, e.g., phone has a fix. It hasn't delivered completely on its promise because it's an under-funded, under-audited mandate that needs serious carrots and sticks to ensure it's reliable.

Re:First U.S. Ban on Sale of Cellphone Location Data Might B... by smcin on Monday July 10, 2023 @09:28PM (#36675387)
No, "finding lost and immobilized callers" was the cover-story nominally used when E911 legislation was pushed in Congress in 1999/2000.

Do we really believe that Congress authored a law to improve "safety" but that had enormous privacy implications, while accidentally forgetting to also deal with the other 99.999+% of the time that the average person's location data is not involved with an emergency? Why were the legislation (and debate) conspicuously silent on limiting (let alone criminalizing) use and retention of location data, let alone resale (e.g. to data brokers or private parties?)