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Re:Tuition costs have risen 710% since 1983 (1200% since 198... by taeric on Monday July 10, 2023 @01:37PM (#36669878)
Wait, what? That is a misleading read of that page. Only if you have parents/guardians that can get a PLUS loan is that the limit. You have to look at the other column for everyone else.

And that is the principal. With a short limit on how much of that can be subsidized, meaning the rest is accruing interest from day 1. Such that they amount you would owe will be laughably higher than even that number after your school. And that is assuming you don't have to then delay repayment for financial hardships.

Re:Tuition costs have risen 710% since 1983 (1200% since 198... by tempsy on Monday July 10, 2023 @01:39PM (#36669940)
how is it misleading? most undergrads are considered dependent, which means they can only borrow $31k in total over 4 years. beyond that they would need to tap alternative sources.
Re:Tuition costs have risen 710% since 1983 (1200% since 198... by taeric on Monday July 10, 2023 @01:43PM (#36670017)
I'm interested in numbers backing up that claim? But, even with that, student debt is almost certainly including PLUS loans which, "The maximum PLUS loan amount you can receive is the cost of attendance (determined by the school) minus any other financial aid received." So... yeah, very misleading read of that page.
Re:Tuition costs have risen 710% since 1983 (1200% since 198... by dragonwriter on Monday July 10, 2023 @01:46PM (#36670083)
> how is it misleading?

Because the limit cited only applies to students whose parents can get (federal, direct, and capped only by the school’s estimate of costs) PLUS loans, and yet is characteized as a limit of the impact of federal subsidies on school costs.

A cap that only applies where another unlimited federal loan stream is available to the same student is, well, not a limit at all, when discussing federal impact on prices.

Re:Tuition costs have risen 710% since 1983 (1200% since 198... by shkkmo on Monday July 10, 2023 @02:27PM (#36670844)
The cap when PLUS loans are not available is $57,500.

The impact on prices is not just the direct, but the general understanding that private educational loans also could not be discharged in bankruptcy that was created by the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005. Courts have started to push back against that but there are only a handful of precedents.

Re:Tuition costs have risen 710% since 1983 (1200% since 198... by taeric on Monday July 10, 2023 @02:37PM (#36671002)
Another misleading point, though? As you can then go on to get 138500 for graduate/professional school.

I'm interested in how many students aren't able to have their family go in on PLUS loans. As that is still a gaping hole to relying on the page and limits linked.