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Re:Ask HN: Problems for the Next Decade by okeuro49 on Monday July 10, 2023 @05:24AM (#36663895)
> You will need to elaborate on that.

My particular familiarity is with the German Democratic Republic. There were many true believers in communism, who in their attempt to construct a communist utopia created and contributed towards a police state.

Jordan Peterson said it shows arrogance to suggest that people just weren't doing communism right, and that if only they got the theory right, then they would usher in the utopia.

I would tend to agree.

> Which should be temporary, right? Do you have an example where it was actually temporary? That would answer my point above.

Your point was to assert that communism has never been tried.

Mine was that it has been tried, and is always unsuccessful. So the failure of temporary dictatorships is proving my point, not yours.

Re:Ask HN: Problems for the Next Decade by palata on Monday July 10, 2023 @07:38AM (#36664956)
I think we're talking past each other. You say "communism doesn't work because we can't reach it", and I say "it's not entirely clear if communism doesn't work because we haven't managed to reach it".

Don't you think that you risk missing interesting ideas if you reduce communism to temporary dictatorships?

Re:Ask HN: Problems for the Next Decade by okeuro49 on Sunday July 16, 2023 @11:40AM (#36748237)
> communism doesn't work because we can't reach it

No, I'm saying it has inherent problems that means it doesn't work.

> Don't you think that you risk missing interesting ideas if you reduce communism to temporary dictatorships?

No, I've already mentioned that workers unionising under a capitalist system has brought more benefits to workers than communism.