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Re:Fractal Vise by bee_rider on Sunday July 09, 2023 @09:17PM (#36660880)
They’ve also got an infringement info page that seems pretty aggressive… maybe they’ve had a lot of trouble with knockoffs or something?
Re:Fractal Vise by poizan42 on Sunday July 09, 2023 @09:57PM (#36661133)
Note that their product isn't available yet.

> Question: How much do they cost? > Answer: Price is not known yet. Production has not started and therefore not enough of them have been made to know what the cost will be. You pre-order with a down payment toward the purchase, and be placed in line. See above.

> Question: When will one be ready for me? > Answer: It will be a while yet before production in quantities begins.

Re:Fractal Vise by orangepurple on Sunday July 09, 2023 @10:56PM (#36661510)
The Chinese already copied the design, improved it, manufactured it, and listed it for sale on a global marketplace. The poor guy is finished.
Re:Fractal Vise by michaelt on Monday July 10, 2023 @04:29AM (#36663524)
Or, from another point of view, the inventor and the Chinese both copied a design from 1912 [1] which was shown in a widely shown Youtube video in June 2021 [2] - a month before this "inventor" applied for a patent [3]

[1] https://patents.google.com/patent/US1059545 [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBeOgGt_oWU [3] https://patents.google.com/patent/US20230008280A1/en

Re:Fractal Vise by planede on Monday July 10, 2023 @05:06AM (#36663786)
And according to the video it was already patented back then in the US. Hopefully the patent office will reject the application.
Re:Fractal Vise by ndsipa_pomu on Monday July 10, 2023 @06:55AM (#36664569)
The patent office isn't in the business of rejecting applications. That's left for the courts to decide.
Re:Fractal Vise by planede on Monday July 10, 2023 @09:15AM (#36665914)
I'm not really familiar with the patent application process, but according to [1] the US patent office does reject application based on prior art.

[1] https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/s706.html

Re:Fractal Vise by ndsipa_pomu on Monday July 10, 2023 @10:17AM (#36666824)
However, in practise it issues many patents that have prior art

https://www.eff.org/issues/patents

Re:Fractal Vise by poizan42 on Monday July 10, 2023 @06:12AM (#36664193)
Their claimed invention is about attaching fractal jaws to existing engraving vises and not the fractal vise itself.

> The patent pending improvements allow for use with engraving vises and other vises.

But in reality their patent applications doesn't even claim that, but rather a specific method for attaching fractal jaws to existing engraving vises as far as I can tell.

btrettel found what seems to be the patent applications in another comment

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20230008280A1/en https://patents.google.com/patent/US20230009028A1/en